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  1. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Indigo Disk]

    This may not matter to some people, but its worth pointing out that yesterday, the Mono room ran "The People's Mono" room tour where the specific things were banned (in addition to mono's current banlist): Baxcalibur, Ogerpon (Fire and Water), Flutter Mane, Chien, Gouging Fire, Archuladon...
  2. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Indigo Disk]

    I have to ask, because this is kinda important. Will Monotype be following the ridiculousness OU is doing by banning sleep entirely? I know Monotype doesn't exactly follow OU, but I felt like this was important to ask because the ban indirectly hit every other tier below OU as a result. That and...
  3. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Indigo Disk]

    Perhaps my opinion will not matter at all, but when has that ever stopped me from posting them? I certainly agree with most of Azicks statement (though if you banned every mon listed I feel like flutter/zama/gambit, the last two in particular, would need to go immediately), but honestly...I...
  4. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    I honestly fail to see how this conversation is at all complicated because lets say you do ban A-tales. Guess what? You just run Abomasnow to achieve similar results with Bax. Ban Icy Rock? Use Light Clay (or vice versa). Baxcalibur will still be a problem. Ban A-tales, abomasnow, icy rock and...
  5. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    Personally I think the only tiering action that should happen is Baxcalibur and Urshifu-S. In particular in regards to ice; Banning Icy Rock, Light Clay, or Alolan Ninetales will not solve the main problem people were largely complaining about in regards to ice: Baxcalibur. Baxcalibur can still...
  6. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    To be fair, I did say in the post right after that I'm unsure and even leaning towards Bax. To answer this post though, whilst there hasnt been action precedent for Icy Rock, there has been for Weather Rocks in general before. That was my line of reasoning. The closest comparison would be smooth...
  7. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    Actually....I'm unsure. I think its time to wipe the snow off the windshields and just ban Bax if the council thinks Ice is doing too much. I know I just said get rid of icy rock because it provides so much free value, but the discussion still comes back to Bax in some regard, and I saw some...
  8. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    Since we're talking about Ice, from someone who has played Ice alot, I agree with Neko's sentiment, that if anything from ice should go first, its Icy Rock and then see what happens. I believe Icy Rock is the superior item to run on Ninetales over light clay since Snow is just so much better...
  9. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    I do not think Hypnosis is worth running at all on either darkrai and ninetales. I can't speak for darkrai too much, because I'm not familiar with dark post-dlc1, but for Ninetales? You can't cut moonblast or encore imo. Moonblast helps immensely deal with the fighting MU (though with Ape being...
  10. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    You know, I've actually been enjoying myself. Way more than previous gens. It actually feels like the DLC this time around really shook things up, and not just cemented the "status quo". Outside of Ape (BAN APE BAN APE BAN APE), nothing feels overly too ridiculous. I'm curious to see how the...
  11. Aschmaros

    Metagame SV Monotype Metagame Discussion [Teal Mask]

    The nightmares...they're returning
  12. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    Like I said in my previous post, I don't see any way how Chien can get suspected or quick banned with how it's looking right now. I don't think Chien will be stronger than it ever was then at the start of this generation. Ice and Dark getting buffed overall won't change much in the higher end of...
  13. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    To be honest, I don't think Chien will be quick banned. If nothing was done this long about it, where it was a bigger threat back then than it is now (and will be, because I don't think dark will overpower say water or fairy) then I don't think the inclusion of mandibuzz will change much. I can...
  14. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    Like I said we need to see if it still learns defog, because a lot of mons lost it THIS Generation. Unless I missed something here
  15. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    Correct me if i'm wrong but mamo is coming in teal mask and not indigo disk? I could've sworn both it and A-Ninetales was coming together, also we need to see is Mandibuzz has defog or not considering they removed defog on alot of mon, mandibuzz may have suffered the same fate as well
  16. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    Now that we're moving on from that unfortunate dreary topic, let's go back to a previous discussion. Sneasler (Dire Claw). I will reiterate that my stance is that Dire Claw, by nature, is uncompetitive and should be banned (by extension of Snealser getting banned) for that reason alone. Not that...
  17. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    Well, its nice to know I'm not alone in the sentiment that scald is an unhealthy move and hates it. I thought that was one of the better things they got right this generation limiting it to volcanion. Dare I say, maybe we will see the return of hidden power?
  18. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    While I acknowledge Corruption's viewpoint regarding existing precedents, I firmly stand by my assertion that Dire is inherently uncompetitive and I believe those precedents cannot be factored into this discussion of Dire Claw since Dire Claw is fundamentally different than those listed. The...
  19. Aschmaros

    Other Pre-DLC SV Monotype Metagame Discussion

    Lets talk about Dire Claw real quickly, because I have a bone to pick with this move because Gamefreak, once again this generation, decided to make an arguable unhealthy really good move and stuck it on a really good mon. I'm not going to talk about Snealser in this post (if I do it will be...
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