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Misc thoughts on mons tldr ban :naganadel: :kyurem-black: :genesect: :landorus:, everything else is fine until then imo

Im not opposed to a suspect but Dynamax is nowhere near as broken as it is in regular OU. The incompatibility with Z moves and Mega evolutions gives the ability a greater opportunity cost (if you want to use Mega Metagross or Mega Blastoise eg suddenly you only have 5 Dynamaxers, which seriously...

Its not common at all unfortunately, but I think its really good. Ive seen more Raikou on ladder than it

Love this list, I'd also add CM Suicune and BU Buzzwole here. Suicune can pretty easily sweep through balance teams that rely on Darm/Vish/Gren as breakers, while Buzzwole operates similarly to Curse Scizor by punishing setup Zygarde sets. Both also benefit really from heavily from Dynamax...

Assurance gets boosted if the opposing pokemon got damaged already that turn, not Grimmsnarl. Its pretty much exclusively a doubles move, but if it worked the other way around itd be pretty good on Grimmsnarl

If only to detract from this discussion im dropping some teams I've been having success with: :grimmsnarl: :zygarde: :blastoise-mega: :magearna: :corviknight: :excadrill: :landorus-therian: :darmanitan-galar: :tapu koko: :hawlucha: :medicham-mega: :magearna: :suicune: :toxapex: :clefable...

not sure if its intended or a bug but power construct is currently usable (and disgustingly broken) on Zygarde

I'm in huge favor of dropping a bunch of stuff for the early meta, esp given that some of these pokemon were banned 5-6+ years ago and the present metagame is so far removed from when they were banned. A good chunk of stuff like Deo-A/MGar/MMence is probably still beyond broken but stuff like...

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Oh yeah, you're totally right. Unless there's some super specific calc I'm missing out on, Spirit Break is gonna be better than Play Rough on everything except CB.

Grimmsnarl Base Stats: 95 HP | 120 Atk | 65 Def | 95 SpA | 75 SpD | 60 Spe Abilities: Prankster | Frisk | Pickpocket (HA) [Notable Moves] - Bulk Up - Spirit Break - Play Rough - Sucker Punch - Crunch - Darkest Lariat - Fire Punch - Ice Punch - Thunder Punch - Power Whip - Drain Punch - Hammer...

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oh you're right, i completely forgot about mold breaker on gen 5 legends. i guess its back to OU for shed then

I'm not gonna mention Dynamax/Gigantomax bc we don't know exactly how the mechanic will play out, but these are my predictions for the pokemon I expect to be relevant in the gen 8 Ubers metagame, in no particular order. This gets pretty long so im putting everything in spoilers: Each of...