Gen 3 ADV Lead Spoink + OO + CC [Done]

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[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Grass / Substitute
item: Lum Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 236 HP / 88 SpA / 184 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink carves out a niche as a lead thanks to its special bulk and access to Thick Fat, which allows it to beat other common leads such as Snorunt, Growlithe, and Cyndaquil. Lum Berry helps prevent Butterfree from putting Spoink to sleep so that Spoink can use Taunt. Calm Mind allows Spoink to set up on Growlithe and Cyndaquil. Taunt is able to shut down Snorunt from using Spikes and Butterfree from using Sleep Powder. STAB-boosted Psychic threatens Poison-type Pokemon such as Grimer, Koffing, and Nidorino, and due to the lack of Dark-types in the tier, it is very spammable. Hidden Power Fire is used to threaten Steel-types such as Magnemite and Aron. Hidden Power Grass can be used to help Spoink OHKO Rhyhorn without relying on a Calm Mind boost. Alternatively, Substitute can be used to help Spoink avoid status. The most notable instance of this is against Butterfree, where a Taunt followed by a Substitute allows Spoink to set up on it. While both Substitute and Hidden Power Grass are effective they fail to check Magnemite. 180 Speed EVs allow Spoink to outspeed Snorunt, while 236 HP EVs prevent a 2HKO from Growlithe's Crunch. 88 Special Attack EVs allow Spoink a chance to OHKO Cyndaquil with Psychic at +1.

Spoink fits best on teams that aim to take advantage of common leads on balance teams such as Cyndaquil, Growlithe, and Snorunt. It can make an excellent lead on bulky offense teams for this reason. Dustox and bulky Castform are unable to check Cyndaquil and Growlithe reliably, so they naturally appreciate Spoink as a counter-lead. Pokemon that struggle against lead Butterfree such as Koffing, Rhyhorn, and Cubone all appreciate how adept Spoink is at shutting it down and forcing it out. Pokemon that struggle with taking repeated Spikes damage such as Magnemite, Chinchou, and Nosepass appreciate Spoink's denial of Snorunt's entry hazards. Other Substitute users such as Larvitar, Croconaw, and Mankey also appreciate the lack of Spikes. Larvitar is worth mentioning, as it can turn Delcatty, which walls Spoink, into set-up fodder. Other physical attackers such as Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Cubone can threaten Delcatty just as well. Spoink appreciates physically defensive walls such as Nosepass and Koffing, as they can prevent faster physical foes such as Aipom and Pidgeotto from OHKOing it.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A Salac Berry may be used in conjunction with Substitute and maximum Speed to turn Spoink into a set-up sweeper. Spoink may be tempted to use a set utilizing Trick and Choice Band; however, this falls short due to Spoink's mediocre Speed and the fact that many foes wouldn't mind holding a Choice Band.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Faster Physical attackers**: Pokemon such as Aipom, Delibird, and Pidgeotto can all outspeed and OHKO Spoink due to its poor Defense.

**Status users**: Toxic users such as Elekid and Cyndaquil can all severely limit Spoink's ability to function as a Calm Mind user. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Nosepass, Magnemite, and Chinchou makes Spoink easier to revenge kill.

**Bulky attackers**: Without a boost from Calm Mind, Spoink struggles to do anything against bulky attackers like Castform and Seaking.

**Delcatty**: Due to its excellent bulk, Delcatty is able to threaten Spoink with STAB-boosted Body Slam or Shadow Ball if opts to drop Heal Bell.

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[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Taunt / Substitute
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Grass / Substitute
item: Lum Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 236 HP / 92 SpA / 180 Spe This hits the exact same Speed number as lead Growlithe. Shouldn't it be 1 point higher to outspeed it?

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink carves out a niche as a lead thanks to its special bulk and access to Thick Fat, (Add Comma) . These traits which allow Spoink it to beat other common leads such as Snorunt, Growlithe, and Cyndaquil. Calm Mind allows Spoink to set up on Growlithe and Cyndaquil while threatening a 2HKO with Psychic at +1. Taunt is able to shut down Snorunt from using Spikes and Butterfree from using Sleep Powder. Mention Lum Berry STAB-boosted Psychic threatens Poison-type Pokemon such as Grimer, Koffing, and Nidorino, (Add Comma) while and due to the lack of Dark-types it is relatively drawback-free very spammable. I reworded this sentence to make it's point more clear, fell free to reword it how you wish Hidden Power Fire is used to threaten Steel-types such as Magnemite and Aron. Hidden Power Grass can be used to help Spoink OHKO Rhyhorn without relying on a Calm Mind boost. It also hits Aron about as well as HP Fire, which could be worth mentioning Alternatively, Substitute can be used to help Spoink avoid status. The most notable instance of this is against Butterfree where a Taunt followed by a Substitute allows you to set up on it. Mention the use cases of dropping Taunt for Substitute 180 Speed EVs allow Spoink to outspeed Snorunt while 236 HP EVs prevent a 2HKO from Growlithe's Crunch. 92 SpA EVs allow Spoink to OHKO Cyndaquil with Psychic at +1. You already mention that earlier, should cut out at least one of these mentions.

Spoink fits best on teams that aim to take advantage of common leads on balance teams such as Cyndaquil, Growlithe, and Snorunt. It can make an excellent lead on bulky offense teams for this reason. Dustox and bulky Castform are unable to check Cyndaquil and Growlithe reliably, so they naturally appreciate Spoink as a counter lead. Pokemon that struggle with taking repeated Spikes damage such as Magnemite, Chinchou, and Nosepass appreciate Spoink's denial of Snorunt's entry hazards. Other substitute users such as Larvitar, Croconaw, and Mankey also appreciate the lack of Spikes. Larvitar is worth mentioning as it can turn Delcatty, which walls Spoink, into set-up fodder which otherwise walls Spoink. Other physical attackers such as Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Cubone can threaten Delcatty just as well. Spoink appreciates physically defensive walls such as Nosepass and Koffing as they can prevent faster physical foes such as Aipom and Pidgeotto from OHKOing it.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A Salac Berry may be used in conjunction with Substitute and max Speed to turn Spoink into a set-up sweeper. Spoink may be tempted to use a set utilizing Trick and Choice Band, however, this falls short due to Spoink's mediocre Speed and the fact that most many foes wouldn't mind holding a Choice Band.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Faster Physical attackers**: Pokemon such as Aipom, Seaking, and Pidgeotto can all outspeed and OHKO Spoink due to its poor physical defenses Defense.

**Status users**: Toxic users such as Elekid and Cyndaquil can all severely limit Spoink's ability to function as a Calm Mind user. Mention paralysis making Spoink easier to revenge kill

Mention bulky attackers like Castform


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Great work. Onto GP after this
[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Grass / Substitute
item: Lum Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 236 HP / 88 SpA / 184 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink carves out a niche as a lead thanks to its special bulk and access to Thick Fat, which allows it to beat other common leads such as Snorunt, Growlithe, and Cyndaquil. Lum Berry helps prevent Butterfree from putting Spoink to sleep so that it can use Taunt. Calm Mind allows Spoink to set up on Growlithe and Cyndaquil. Taunt is able to shut down Snorunt from using Spikes and Butterfree from using Sleep Powder. STAB-boosted Psychic threatens Poison-type Pokemon such as Grimer, Koffing, and Nidorino, and due to the lack of Dark-types it is very spammable. Hidden Power Fire is used to threaten Steel-types such as Magnemite and Aron. Hidden Power Grass can be used to help Spoink OHKO Rhyhorn without relying on a Calm Mind boost. Alternatively, Substitute can be used to help Spoink avoid status. The most notable instance of this is against Butterfree where a Taunt followed by a Substitute allows you to set up on it. 180 Speed EVs allow Spoink to outspeed Snorunt while 236 HP EVs prevent a 2HKO from Growlithe's Crunch. 92 SpA EVs allow Spoink to OHKO Cyndaquil with Psychic at +1. You have 88 SpA and 184 Spe above, make sure this lines up.

mention that while hp grass and sub can be solid options, hp fire is inevitably better because Steels make spoink useless unless they are dealt with.


Spoink fits best on teams that aim to take advantage of common leads on balance teams such as Cyndaquil, Growlithe, and Snorunt. It can make an excellent lead on bulky offense teams for this reason. Dustox and bulky Castform are unable to check Cyndaquil and Growlithe reliably, so they naturally appreciate Spoink as a counter lead. Pokemon that struggle with taking repeated Spikes damage such as Magnemite, Chinchou, and Nosepass appreciate Spoink's denial of Snorunt's entry hazards. Other substitute users such as Larvitar, Croconaw, and Mankey also appreciate the lack of Spikes. Larvitar is worth mentioning as it can turn Delcatty, which walls Spoink, into set-up fodder which. Other physical attackers such as Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Cubone can threaten Delcatty just as well. Spoink appreciates physically defensive walls such as Nosepass and Koffing as they can prevent faster physical foes such as Aipom and Pidgeotto from OHKOing it.

Might be good to mention that teams that dont carry Mankey or Lum Berry users that can pressure free appreciate its ability to shut down and force it out. Could also be good to mention that it can lure and kill steels so that poison-type teammates can have an easier time spreading status or causing the opposing team problems in general.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A Salac Berry may be used in conjunction with Substitute and max Speed to turn Spoink into a set-up sweeper. Spoink may be tempted to use a set utilizing Trick and Choice Band, however, this falls short due to Spoink's mediocre Speed and the fact that many foes wouldn't mind holding a Choice Band.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Faster Physical attackers**: Pokemon such as Aipom, Delibird, and Pidgeotto can all outspeed and OHKO Spoink due to its poor physical defenses.

**Status users**: Toxic users such as Elekid and Cyndaquil can all severely limit Spoink's ability to function as a Calm Mind user. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Nosepass, Magnemite, and Chinchou makes Spoink easier to revenge kill.

**Bulky attackers**: Without a boost from Calm Mind, Spoink struggles to do anything against bulky attackers like Castform and Seaking.

Delcatty should be mentioned somewhere here

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[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Grass / Substitute
item: Lum Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 236 HP / 88 SpA / 184 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink carves out a niche as a lead thanks to its special bulk and access to Thick Fat, which allows it to beat other common leads such as Snorunt, Growlithe, and Cyndaquil. Lum Berry helps prevent Butterfree from putting Spoink to sleep so that it Spoink can use Taunt. Calm Mind allows Spoink to set up on Growlithe and Cyndaquil. Taunt is able to shut down Snorunt from using Spikes and Butterfree from using Sleep Powder. STAB-boosted Psychic threatens Poison-type Pokemon such as Grimer, Koffing, and Nidorino, and due to the lack of Dark-types in the tier, (ac) it is very spammable. Hidden Power Fire is used to threaten Steel-types such as Magnemite and Aron. Hidden Power Grass can be used to help Spoink OHKO Rhyhorn without relying on a Calm Mind boost. Alternatively, Substitute can be used to help Spoink avoid status. The most notable instance of this is against Butterfree, (ac) where a Taunt followed by a Substitute allows you Spoink to set up on it. While both Substitute and Hidden Power Grass are effective, (ac) they fail to check Magnemite. 180 Speed EVs allow Spoink to outspeed Snorunt, (ac) while 236 HP EVs prevent a 2HKO from Growlithe's Crunch. 88 SpA Special Attack EVs allow Spoink a chance to OHKO Cyndaquil with Psychic at +1.

Spoink fits best on teams that aim to take advantage of common leads on balance teams such as Cyndaquil, Growlithe, and Snorunt. It can make an excellent lead on bulky offense teams for this reason. Dustox and bulky Castform are unable to check Cyndaquil and Growlithe reliably, so they naturally appreciate Spoink as a counter lead counter-lead. Pokemon that struggle against lead Butterfree such as Koffing, Rhyhorn, and Cubone all appreciate how adept Spoink is at shutting it down and forcing it out. Pokemon that struggle with taking repeated Spikes damage such as Magnemite, Chinchou, and Nosepass appreciate Spoink's denial of Snorunt's entry hazards. Other substitute Substitute users such as Larvitar, Croconaw, and Mankey also appreciate the lack of Spikes. Larvitar is worth mentioning, (ac) as it can turn Delcatty, which walls Spoink, into set-up fodder. Other physical attackers such as Aipom, Rhyhorn, and Cubone can threaten Delcatty just as well. Spoink appreciates physically defensive walls such as Nosepass and Koffing, (ac) as they can prevent faster physical foes such as Aipom and Pidgeotto from OHKOing it.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A Salac Berry may be used in conjunction with Substitute and max maximum Speed to turn Spoink into a set-up sweeper. Spoink may be tempted to use a set utilizing Trick and Choice Band,; (comma to semi-colon) however, this falls short due to Spoink's mediocre Speed and the fact that many foes wouldn't mind holding a Choice Band.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Faster Physical attackers**: Pokemon such as Aipom, Delibird, and Pidgeotto can all outspeed and OHKO Spoink due to its poor physical defenses Defense.

**Status users**: Toxic users such as Elekid and Cyndaquil can all severely limit Spoink's ability to function as a Calm Mind user. Thunder Wave from Pokemon such as Nosepass, Magnemite, and Chinchou makes Spoink easier to revenge kill.

**Bulky attackers**: Without a boost from Calm Mind, Spoink struggles to do anything against bulky attackers like Castform and Seaking.

**Delcatty**: Due to its excellent bulk, Delcatty is able to threaten Spoink with STAB-boosted Body Slam or Shadow Ball if opts to drop Heal Bell.

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