Niadev
Moderator
National Dex Underused
Welcome to National Dex Underused! This thread will be used to discuss the National Dex UU metagame, letting users share theorymonning ideas, metagame observations, and sets! Every Pokémon that is under the 4.52% cutoff of the National Dex OU ladder or is not banned to UUBL is allowed in the tier.
It's time for a new gen, and with it some crazy new Pokemon to use (including former NatDex AG Pokemon and Pokemon that never fell to NatDex UU at all during Gen 8)! NatDex UU will be in alpha for the first month, so nothing beyond the initial banlist will be banned.
This is the current banlist:
Calyrex-Shadow
Gengar-Mega
Koraidon
Miraidon
Rayquaza-Mega
Shedinja
*Assist
Gengar-Mega
Koraidon
Miraidon
Rayquaza-Mega
Shedinja
*Assist
Alakazam-Mega
Annihilape
Arceus-*
Baxcalibur
Blastoise-Mega
Blaziken-Mega
Calyrex-Ice
Chien-Pao
Chi-Yu
Darmanitan-Galar
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Speed
Dialga
Dialga Origin
Espathra
Dracovish
Dragapult
Eternatus
Flutter Mane
Genesect-*
Gholdengo
Giratina
Giratina-Origin
Groudon
Groudon-Primal
Ho-Oh
Iron Bundle
Kangaskhan-Mega
Kingambit
Kyogre
Kyogre-Primal
Kyurem-Black
Kyurem-White
Landorus
Lucario-Mega
Lugia
Lunala
Magearna
Magearna-Original
Marshadow
Melmetal
Metagross-Mega
Mewtwo
Mewtwo-Mega-X
Mewtwo-Mega-Y
Naganadel
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
Necrozma-Ultra
Palafin
Palafin-Hero
Palkia
Palkia Origin
Pheromosa
Rayquaza
Regieleki
Reshiram
Roaring Moon
Salamence-Mega
Shaymin-Sky
Sneasler
Solgaleo
Spectrier
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Urshifu
Walking Wake
Xerneas
Yveltal
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta-Crowned
Zekrom
Zygarde
Zygarde-Complete
*Last Respects
*Shed Tail
Annihilape
Arceus-*
Baxcalibur
Blastoise-Mega
Blaziken-Mega
Calyrex-Ice
Chi-Yu
Darmanitan-Galar
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Speed
Dialga
Dialga Origin
Espathra
Dracovish
Dragapult
Eternatus
Flutter Mane
Genesect-*
Gholdengo
Giratina
Giratina-Origin
Groudon
Groudon-Primal
Ho-Oh
Iron Bundle
Kangaskhan-Mega
Kingambit
Kyogre
Kyogre-Primal
Kyurem-Black
Kyurem-White
Landorus
Lucario-Mega
Lugia
Lunala
Marshadow
Metagross-Mega
Mewtwo
Mewtwo-Mega-X
Mewtwo-Mega-Y
Naganadel
Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
Necrozma-Ultra
Palafin
Palafin-Hero
Palkia
Palkia Origin
Pheromosa
Rayquaza
Reshiram
Roaring Moon
Salamence-Mega
Shaymin-Sky
Sneasler
Solgaleo
Spectrier
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Urshifu
Walking Wake
Xerneas
Yveltal
Zacian
Zacian-Crowned
Zamazenta-Crowned
Zekrom
Zygarde
Zygarde-Complete
*Last Respects
*Shed Tail
Alomomola
Archaludon
Banette-Mega
Charizard-Mega-X
Charizard-Mega-Y
Ceruledge
Clodsire
Corviknight
Darkrai
Diancie-Mega
Dragonite
Ferrothorn
Garchomp
Garchomp-Mega (by technicality)
Garganacl
Glimmora
Gliscor
Gouging Fire
Great Tusk
Hatterene
Heatran
Hoopa-Unbound
Iron Boulder
Iron Crown
Iron Treads
Iron Valiant
Kyurem
Landorus-Therian
Lopunny-Mega
Moltres
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Pelipper
Raging Bolt
Rillaboom
Samurott-Hisui
Serperior
Scizor-Mega
Slowking-Galar
Swampert-Mega
Tapu Koko
Tapu Lele
Toxapex
Ursaluna
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Volcarona
Zamazenta
Zapdos
Archaludon
Banette-Mega
Charizard-Mega-X
Charizard-Mega-Y
Ceruledge
Clodsire
Corviknight
Darkrai
Diancie-Mega
Dragonite
Ferrothorn
Garchomp
Garchomp-Mega (by technicality)
Garganacl
Glimmora
Gliscor
Gouging Fire
Great Tusk
Hatterene
Heatran
Hoopa-Unbound
Iron Boulder
Iron Crown
Iron Treads
Iron Valiant
Kyurem
Landorus-Therian
Lopunny-Mega
Moltres
Ogerpon-Wellspring
Pelipper
Raging Bolt
Rillaboom
Samurott-Hisui
Serperior
Scizor-Mega
Slowking-Galar
Swampert-Mega
Tapu Koko
Toxapex
Ursaluna
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Volcarona
Zamazenta
Zapdos
Pokemon:
Blaziken
Cinderace
Dondozo
Gyarados
Gyarados-Mega
Kartana
Kommo-o
Latios
Latios-Mega
Manaphy
Mawile-Mega
Medicham-Mega
Meowscarada
Ogerpon-Cornerstone
Pinsir-Mega
Tornadus-Therian
Xurkitree
Abilities:
Drought
Drizzle
Additional Clauses:
Terastal Clause - You cannot Terastalize
Items:
Light Clay
List of additional mons that have been banned by tiering action:
Annihilape
Ceruledge
Charizard-Mega-X
Espathra
Garganacl
Kyurem
Zamazenta
Blaziken
Cinderace
Dondozo
Gyarados
Gyarados-Mega
Kartana
Kommo-o
Latios
Latios-Mega
Manaphy
Mawile-Mega
Medicham-Mega
Meowscarada
Ogerpon-Cornerstone
Pinsir-Mega
Tornadus-Therian
Xurkitree
Abilities:
Drought
Drizzle
Additional Clauses:
Terastal Clause - You cannot Terastalize
Items:
Light Clay
List of additional mons that have been banned by tiering action:
Annihilape
Ceruledge
Charizard-Mega-X
Espathra
Garganacl
Kyurem
Zamazenta
Council:
Niadev (Tier Leader)
Lupla (Co-Tier Leader)
Pubo
Runo
TBIC106
Danbear02
Tiering History:
12/01/2022: Alpha phase
12/07/2022: Chi-Yu banned from NatDex OU
01/01/2023: Beta phase
01/04/2023: Annihilape, Espathra, Charizard-Mega-X, Mawile-Mega, Medicham-Mega and Zamazenta have been quickbanned from NatDex UU
02/01/2023: Out of beta, meta officially released
02/11/2023: Garganacl, Manaphy and Xurkitree quickbanned from NatDex UU
02/14/2023: Victini Suspect
03/01/2023: March Shifts (no changes)
03/03/2023: Victini remains legal
03/13/2023: Kommo-o Quickbanned from NatDex UU
04/01/2023: April Shifts
04/07/2023: Mega Pinsir and Baxcalibur have been quickbanned from NatDex UU
04/10/2023: Weavile Suspect
04/24/2023: Shed Tail quickbanned from NatDex OU
04/26/2023: Weavile has been banned via suspect
05/01/2023: May Shifts
06/01/2023: June Shifts
06/13/2023: Dondozo and Kyurem quickbanned from NatDex UU
06/15/2023: Mega Gyarados Suspect
06/27/2023: Mega Gyarados banned via suspect
07/01/2023: July Shifts
07/11/2023: Drought, Drizzle, and Hoopa-Unbound quickbanned from National Dex UU
08/01/2023: August Shifts
08/09/2023: Terastalization Suspect Test
08/24/2023: Terastalization banned from National Dex UU
08/31/2023: Blaziken quickbanned from National Dex UU
09/01/2023: September Shifts
09/07/2023: Tornadus-Therian quickbanned from National Dex UU
10/01/2023: October Shifts
10/08/23: Kartana quickbanned into immediate retest
10/24/23: Kartana remains banned from National Dex UU
10/27/23: Gyarados quickbanned from National Dex UU
11/01/23: November Shifts
11/10/23: Light Clay Suspect Test
11/22/23: Light Clay banned from National Dex UU
12/01/23: December Shifts
12/07/23: Ogerpon-Cornerstone quickbanned from National Dex UU
12/08/23: Iron Moth Suspect Test
12/25/23: Iron Moth remains unbanned from National Dex UU
01/01/24: January Shifts
04/01/24: Meowscarada quickbanned from National Dex UU
20/01/24: Ceruledge quickbanned from National Dex UU
01/02/24: February Shifts
04/02/24: Cinderace Suspect Test
19/02/24: Cinderace banned from National Dex UU
01/03/24: March Shifts
08/03/24: Latios Suspect Test
22/03/24 Latios banned from National Dex UU
01/01/2023: Beta phase
Rises:
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
02/01/2023: Out of beta, meta officially released
Rises
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
-> OU -> UU
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
-> OU -> UU
02/14/2023: Victini Suspect
03/01/2023: March Shifts (no changes)
03/03/2023: Victini remains legal
03/13/2023: Kommo-o Quickbanned from NatDex UU
04/01/2023: April Shifts
Rises
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
04/10/2023: Weavile Suspect
04/24/2023: Shed Tail quickbanned from NatDex OU
04/26/2023: Weavile has been banned via suspect
05/01/2023: May Shifts
Rises
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
Rises
UUBL -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
UUBL -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
06/15/2023: Mega Gyarados Suspect
06/27/2023: Mega Gyarados banned via suspect
07/01/2023: July Shifts
Rises:
(No changes)
Drops:
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
(No changes)
Drops:
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
08/01/2023: August Shifts
Rises
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
(No Changes)
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
(No Changes)
08/24/2023: Terastalization banned from National Dex UU
08/31/2023: Blaziken quickbanned from National Dex UU
09/01/2023: September Shifts
Rises
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
10/01/2023: October Shifts
Rises
UUBL -> OU
UUBL -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
UUBL -> OU
UUBL -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
10/24/23: Kartana remains banned from National Dex UU
10/27/23: Gyarados quickbanned from National Dex UU
11/01/23: November Shifts
Rises
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UU
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UU
11/22/23: Light Clay banned from National Dex UU
12/01/23: December Shifts
Rises
UUBL -> OU
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
UUBL -> OU
UUBL -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
12/08/23: Iron Moth Suspect Test
12/25/23: Iron Moth remains unbanned from National Dex UU
01/01/24: January Shifts
Rises
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UUBL
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
20/01/24: Ceruledge quickbanned from National Dex UU
01/02/24: February Shifts
Rises
UUBL -> OU
UUBL -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
UUBL -> OU
UUBL -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
OU -> UU
19/02/24: Cinderace banned from National Dex UU
01/03/24: March Shifts
Rises
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
UU -> OU
Drops
OU -> UU
22/03/24 Latios banned from National Dex UU
In addition, this gen we are moving to our own Discord (again!). We will remain active in the UU channel in the National Dex discord for the alpha period while we transition over. You can find the discord by clicking here.
IMPORTANT: Please refrain from posting one liners.
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