Honchkrow


[OVERVIEW]

With a massive base 125 Attack, a great offensive typing, a good ability, and powerful priority in Sucker Punch, Honchkrow is one of the strongest offensive Pokemon in the tier. It serves as a nice wallbreaker and late-game cleaner for offensive teams, as it can sweep weakened teams with a combination of Moxie and Sucker Punch, takes advantage of its huge Attack stat with its access to Brave Bird, and can even force mind games with Pursuit. However, Honchkrow has many flaws that hold it back. It has a mediocre defensive typing that leaves it weak to Stealth Rock, letting it get worn down by Life Orb recoil and recoil from Brave Bird more easily, even with access to Roost. It also has a somewhat shallow movepool. It also has poor defenses, making it extremely frail, and its Speed isn't so great either, making it reliant on Sucker Punch when up against faster offensive threats.

[SET]
set name: Murderkrow
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: Pursuit / Roost
move 4: Superpower / Pursuit
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Brave Bird can 2HKO nearly anything that doesn't resist it. Sucker Punch slightly makes up for Honchkrow's middling Speed. Pursuit traps Psychic-type Pokemon such as Slowking and causes mind games with Sucker Punch, which can put a lot of pressure on the opponent, especially if Honchkrow has a Moxie boost. Roost mitigates the recoil caused by Brave Bird and Life Orb. Superpower hits Steel- and Dark-types such as Lucario, Aggron, Krookodile, Umbreon, and Hydreigon for super effective damage.

Set Details
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Attack and Speed are maximized so that Honchkrow is as fast and powerful as possible, with the Speed investment allowing it to outspeed uninvested Pokemon with a base Speed of 100. An Adamant nature is used to increase Honchkrow's damage output; however, Jolly can be used to outspeed maximum Speed base 70s if needed. Life Orb helps Honchkrow clean, and its recoil isn't too problematic thanks to Roost.

Usage Tips
========

Honchkrow is usually used as a late-game cleaner and shouldn't be on the field much early-game; although it can punch holes in opposing teams, it's better off, in most cases, picking off weakened threats. Honchkrow should usually be trying to clean after faster Pokemon that resist Sucker Punch such as Hydreigon and Krookodile have been removed, as they are reliable bulky offense Pokemon that can take Honchkrow out.

Team Options
========

Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Froslass, Roserade, and Mega Swampert makes it easier for Honchkrow to sweep with Moxie late-game, as this helps wear down some of its common threats. Pokemon that can check Dark-types such as Krookodile and Hydreigon make it easier for Honchkrow to clean, as they can tank Sucker Punches with little trouble; Whimsicott is an especially good partner, as it resists both of Krookodile's and Hydreigon's STAB attacks and can bring in Honchkrow safely with U-turn or support it with Tailwind, Memento, or Stun Spore. In the same token, pivots such as Forretress, Cobalion, and Mega Ampharos are good partners, as they can bring Honchkrow in safely, giving it opportunities to Pursuit trap or wallbreak with Brave Bird. Late-game cleaners that can take advantage of Honchkrow's wallbreaking prowess are also good teammates; Lucario and Cobalion in particular enjoy Honchkrow forcing out and trapping Chandelure and Psychic-types such as Slowking.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can block status and prevent Honchkrow from getting revenge killed by Pokemon such as Hydreigon. Heat Wave can remove Steel-types such as Mega Aggron and Forretress, but it doesn't have great coverage otherwise. Choice Scarf can boost Honchkrow's Speed, but Honchkrow has access to Sucker Punch anyway and doesn't have a great Speed tier. Taunt stops bulky Pokemon from setting up on Honchkrow, but it has little use over Honchkrow's coverage options. Tailwind can support Honchkrow and its teammates by patching up Honchkrow's middling Speed. Thunder Wave can cripple common checks to Honchkrow, such as Hydreigon. Choice Band can boost Honchkrow's Attack by a large margin, but Honchkrow appreciates having the ability to switch moves.


Checks & Counters
=============

**Faster Pokemon That Resist Dark**: Pokemon that resist Dark-type moves and can OHKO Honchkrow such as Hydreigon, Heracross, Cobalion, and Whimsicott are good answers to Honchkrow, as they can usually revenge kill Honchkrow after taking a boosted Sucker Punch. However, none of them can switch into Honchkrow's Brave Bird.

**Bulky Pokemon That Resist Flying**: Pokemon with high Defense, such as Mega Aggron, Mega Ampharos, and Rhyperior can all tank Honchkrow's Brave Bird with little trouble and can force it out. However, they all get worn down through repeated switching in. Mega Aerodactyl can also deal with Honchkrow reliably thanks to Roost, although it must be wary of Superpower.

**Intimidate Pokemon**: Bulky Intimidate users, such as Arcanine and defensive variants of Salamence, can take Honchkrow's attacks reliably and heal off any damage taken. Arcanine can burn Honchkrow with Will-O-Wisp and can wear it down quickly with Rocky Helmet if it gets hit.

**Bulky Water-types**: Bulky Water-type Pokemon, such as Suicune and Alomomola, can deal with Honchkrow thanks to their great overall bulk and can cripple Honchkrow with Scald burns.

**Mega Aggron**: Mega Aggron can switch into most of Honchkrow's attacks with little trouble, thanks to its huge physical bulk. However, it doesn't like taking a boosted Superpower.
 
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22:51KingUUadd offensive and defensive pivots
22:52KingUUthey give honchkrow the perfect opportunity to come and pursuit/BB
22:52KingUUput heat wave closer to the top of OO
22:53Bouffalanthmm yeah
22:53KingUUAlso, can you be a tad more specific in C&C?
22:53Bouffalantalso i didnt order oo in order of viability but it sounds like a good idea so i'll do that
22:53KingUUI feel like saying "dark type resists" and "flying type resists"
22:53Bouffalantyeah
22:53KingUUye I think order is pretty neat for OO
22:53Bouffalantidk i was playing around
22:53KingUUI get what you mean
22:53KingUUbut the devil is in the detail
22:54KingUUmeru is fan of pointing that out in my analyses
 
I do not see in team options Pokemon that can weaken Honchkrow's checks. LO Shaymin pressures most bulky waters, and annoys Rhyperior, Mega Ampharos (which dislikes Seed Flare and Dazzling Gleam), bulky Waters, Intimidate Arcanine (if running Earth Power), etc. In a similar vein, Mamoswine annoys most of those checks as well, especially with Freeze Dry, though Mega Aggron is still annoying but easy to wear down.
 
In Team Options just mention some cleaners that appreciate Honch's wallbreaking ability. Specifically Lucario and Cobalion take advantage of it scaring out and trapping Chand and possibly Psychics. Also, I think Substitute should go in Other Options.
 

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[OVERVIEW]

With a massive base 125 Attack, a great offensive typing, and a good ability,(add comma) and coupled with powerful priority in Sucker Punch, Honchkrow is one of the strongest offensive Pokemon in the tier. It serves as a nice wallbreaker and late-game cleaner for offensive teams, as it can snowball sweep (is this what you're trying to say? idk what you mean by "snowball") weakened teams with a combination of Moxie and Sucker Punch, and also takes advantage of its huge Attack stat with its access to Brave Bird, and can even force mind(space)games with Pursuit. However, Honchkrow has many flaws that hold it back. It has a mediocre defensive typing which that leaves it weak to Stealth Rock, letting it get worn down by Stealth Rock damage, in combination of it, Life Orb recoil, and recoil from Brave Bird, even with its access to Roost. It also has a somewhat shallow movepool, as it doesn't have many options aside from its STAB attacks. It also has poor defenses, making it extremely frail, and its Speed isn't so great either, making it reliant on Sucker Punch when up against faster offensive threats. Nonetheless, Honchkrow is a force to be reckoned with when given enough support.

[SET]
set name: Murderkrow
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: Pursuit / Roost
move 4: Superpower / Pursuit
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie
item: Life Orb
nature: Adamant

evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Adamant

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Brave Bird is used as Honchkrow's Flying-type STAB attack, and thanks to its good coverage, can 2HKO nearly anything that doesn't resist it. Sucker Punch is used as Honchkrow's main Dark STAB attack, and is a powerful priority move that slightly makes up for Honchkrow's middling speed. Pursuit traps (you might wanna be specific here...what kind of pkmn? psychic-type? slow?) Pokemon like such as Slowking and causes mind games with Sucker Punch, which can put a lot of pressure on the opponent, especially if Honchkrow has a Moxie boost. Roost can be used to mitigate mitigates the recoil caused by Brave Bird and Life Orb. Superpower hits Steel-types and opposing Dark-types like such as Lucario, Aggron, Krookodile, Umbreon, and Hydreigon for super effective damage.

Set Details
========

Attack and Speed are maxed maximized so that Honckrow Honchkrow is as fast and powerful as possible, with the Speed investment outspeeding Pokemon with a base Speed of 100 that have no Speed investment. Adamant nature is used to increase for Honchkrow's higher damage output,;(comma -> semicolon) however,(add comma) Jolly can be used to outspeed max Speed base 70s if needed. Life Orb helps Honchkrow clean,(add comma) and its recoil isn't too problematic if running thanks to Roost.

Usage Tips
========

Honchkrow is usually used as a late-(add hyphen)game cleaner and shouldn't be on the field much early-(add hyphen)game,;(comma -> semicolon) as while although it can punch holes in opposing teams, it's better off,(add comma) in most cases,(add comma) picking off weakened threats. Honchkrow should usually be trying to clean after faster S(capitalize s)ucker P(capitalize p)unch resists resisters like such as Hydreigon and Krookodile that can reliably take a sucker punch at +1 are removed, as they are reliable bulky offense Pokemon that can take Honchkrow out ways for bulky offense to take it on (I wasn't sure what you were trying to say here, so my correction is probably a bit off. let me know).

Team Options
========

Entry Hazard support from Pokemon like such as Froslass, Roserade, and Mega Swampert make makes it easier for Honchkrow to sweep get the snowball effect with Moxie late-game, as they wear down some of its common threats answers. Pokemon that can check Dark-types like such as Krookodile and Hydreigon make it easier for Honchkrow to clean, as they can tank Sucker Punches with little trouble. Whimiscott Whimsicott is an especially good partner,(add comma) as it resists both of Krookodile's(add apostrophe + s) and Hydreigon's STAB attacks,(remove comma) and can bring in Honchkrow safely with U-turn,(remove comma) or support it with one of Tailwind, Memento, or Stun Spore. In the same token, pivots such as like Forretress, Cobalion, and Mega Ampharos are good partners,(add comma) as since they can bring Honchkrow in safely, giving it opportunities to Pursuit trap or wallbreak with Brave Bird. Late-game cleaners that can take advantage of Honchkrow's wallbreaking prowess are also good teammates; Lucario and Cobalion in particular enjoy Honchkrow forcing out and trapping Chandelure, as well as and Psychic-types such as Slowking.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can is an option to avoid block status and to prevent prevent Honchkrow from getting revenge killed by (might wanna specify what kind of pkmn again) Pokemon like such as Hydreigon. Heat Wave can be used to lure in Steel-types like such as Mega Aggron and Forretress, but it doesn't have great coverage otherwise. Choice Scarf can be used to boost Honchkrow's Speed, but it Honchkrow has access to Sucker Punch and doesn't have a great S(capitalize s)peed tier. Taunt is an option to stop stops bulky Pokemon from setting up on Honchkrow it, but has little use over Honchkrow's coverage options. Tailwind can is an option to support itself Honchkrow and its teammates by patching up Honchkrow's middling Speed. Thunder Wave can be used to cripple common checks to Honchkrow, like such as Hydreigon. Choice Band can boost is an option to boost its Honchkrow's Attack by a large margin, but it Honchkrow appreciates having the ability to switch moves with Life Orb.


Checks & Counters
=============

**Faster Dark-type resists Resisters**: Pokemon that can resist Dark-type moves and can OHKO Honchkrow back, like such as Hydreigon, Heracross, Cobalion, and Whimsicott are good answers to Honchkrow, as they can usually revenge kill Honchkrow after taking a boosted Sucker Punch. However, none of them can switch in(remove space)to Honchkrow's Brave Bird.

**Bulky Flying-type resists Resisters**: Pokemon with high Defense, like such as Mega Aggron, Mega Ampharos, and Rhyperior,(remove comma) can all tank Honchkrow's Brave Bird with little trouble and can force it out. However, they all get worn down through repeated switch-(remove hyphen and add space)ins. Mega Aerodactyl can also deal with Honchkrow reliably thanks to Roost, although it must be wary of Superpower.

**Intimidate users Pokemon**: Bulky Intimidate users, like such as Arcanine,(remove comma) and defensive variants of Salamence, can take Honchkrow's attacks reliably,(remove comma) and can heal off any damage taken. Arcanine in particular can burn Honchkrow with Will-O(capitalize o)-Wisp,(remove comma) and can also wear it down quickly with Rocky Helmet if it gets hit.

**Bulky Water-types**: Bulky Water-type Pokemon, such as Suicune and Alomomola, can deal with Honchkrow thanks to their great overall bulk, and can cripple Honchkrow with Scald burns.

**Mega Aggron**: Mega Aggron can switch into most of Honchkrow's attacks with little trouble, thanks to its huge physical bulk. However, it doesn't like taking a boosted Superpower.

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[OVERVIEW]

With a massive base 125 Attack, a great offensive typing, a good ability, and powerful priority in Sucker Punch, Honchkrow is one of the strongest offensive Pokemon in the tier. It serves as a nice wallbreaker and late-game cleaner for offensive teams, as it can sweep weakened teams with a combination of Moxie and Sucker Punch, takes advantage of its huge Attack stat with its access to Brave Bird, and can even force mind games with Pursuit. However, Honchkrow has many flaws that hold it back. It has a mediocre defensive typing that leaves it weak to Stealth Rock, letting it get worn down by Stealth Rock damage, (repeated information; the addition of 'more easily' resolves the awkwardness imo, but make sure the content is still sound) Life Orb recoil (RC) and recoil from Brave Bird more easily, even with access to Roost. It also has a somewhat shallow movepool. It also has poor defenses, making it extremely frail, and its Speed isn't so great either, making it reliant on Sucker Punch when up against faster offensive threats.

[SET]
set name: Murderkrow
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: Pursuit / Roost
move 4: Superpower / Pursuit
item: Life Orb
ability: Moxie
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Brave Bird can 2HKO nearly anything that doesn't resist it. Sucker Punch slightly makes up for Honchkrow's middling Speed. Pursuit traps Psychic-type Pokemon such as Slowking and causes mind games with Sucker Punch, which can put a lot of pressure on the opponent, especially if Honchkrow has a Moxie boost. Roost mitigates the recoil caused by Brave Bird and Life Orb. Superpower hits Steel- (add hyphen) and Dark-types such as Lucario, Aggron, Krookodile, Umbreon, and Hydreigon for super effective damage.

Set Details
========

Attack and Speed are maximized so that Honchkrow is as fast and powerful as possible, with the Speed investment outspeeding allowing it to outspeed uninvested Pokemon with a base Speed of 100 that have no Speed investment. An Adamant nature is used to increase Honchkrow's damage output; however, Jolly can be used to outspeed maximum Speed base 70s if needed. Life Orb helps Honchkrow clean, and its recoil isn't too problematic thanks to Roost.

Usage Tips
========

Honchkrow is usually used as a late-game cleaner and shouldn't be on the field much early-game; although it can punch holes in opposing teams, it's better off, in most cases, picking off weakened threats. Honchkrow should usually be trying to clean after faster Pokemon that resist Sucker Punch resisters such as Hydreigon and Krookodile are have been removed, as they are reliable bulky offense Pokemon that can take Honchkrow out.

Team Options
========

Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Froslass, Roserade, and Mega Swampert makes it easier for Honchkrow to sweep with Moxie late-game, as they this helps wear down some of its common threats. Pokemon that can check Dark-types such as Krookodile and Hydreigon make it easier for Honchkrow to clean, as they can tank Sucker Punches with little trouble; (SC) Whimsicott is an especially good partner, as it resists both of Krookodile's and Hydreigon's STAB attacks and can bring in Honchkrow safely with U-turn or support it with Tailwind, Memento, or Stun Spore. In the same token, pivots such as Forretress, Cobalion, and Mega Ampharos are good partners, as they can bring Honchkrow in safely, giving it opportunities to Pursuit trap or wallbreak with Brave Bird. Late-game cleaners that can take advantage of Honchkrow's wallbreaking prowess are also good teammates; Lucario and Cobalion in particular enjoy Honchkrow forcing out and trapping Chandelure (RC) and Psychic-types such as Slowking.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can block status and prevent Honchkrow from getting revenge killed by Pokemon such as Hydreigon. Heat Wave can lure in remove (Honchkrow lures them, Heat Wave -obviously- doesn't, would be strange if it did. If you want to keep the word 'lure', make it 'can allow Honchkrow to lure in and KO') Steel-types such as Mega Aggron and Forretress, but it doesn't have great coverage otherwise. Choice Scarf can boost Honchkrow's Speed, but it Honchkrow has access to Sucker Punch anyway and doesn't have a great Speed tier. Taunt stops bulky Pokemon from setting up on Honchkrow, but it has little use over Honchkrow's coverage options. Tailwind can support Honchkrow and its teammates by patching up Honchkrow's middling Speed. Thunder Wave can cripple common checks to Honchkrow, such as Hydreigon. Choice Band can boost Honchkrow's Attack by a large margin, but Honchkrow appreciates having the ability to switch moves.


Checks & Counters
=============

**Faster Dark-type Resisters Pokemon That Resist Dark**: Pokemon that can resist Dark-type moves and can OHKO Honchkrow such as Hydreigon, Heracross, Cobalion, and Whimsicott are good answers to Honchkrow, as they can usually revenge kill Honchkrow after taking a boosted Sucker Punch. However, none of them can switch into Honchkrow's Brave Bird.

**Bulky Flying-type Resisters Pokemon That Resist Flying**: Pokemon with high Defense, such as Mega Aggron, Mega Ampharos, and Rhyperior can all tank Honchkrow's Brave Bird with little trouble and can force it out. However, they all get worn down through repeated switch ins switching in. Mega Aerodactyl can also deal with Honchkrow reliably thanks to Roost, although it must be wary of Superpower.

**Intimidate Pokemon**: Bulky Intimidate users, such as Arcanine and defensive variants of Salamence, can take Honchkrow's attacks reliably and heal off any damage taken. Arcanine can burn Honchkrow with Will-O-Wisp and can also wear it down quickly with Rocky Helmet if it gets hit.

**Bulky Water-types**: Bulky Water-type Pokemon, such as Suicune and Alomomola, can deal with Honchkrow thanks to their great overall bulk (RC) and can cripple Honchkrow with Scald burns.

**Mega Aggron**: Mega Aggron can switch into most of Honchkrow's attacks with little trouble, thanks to its huge physical bulk. However, it doesn't like taking a boosted Superpower.



GP 2/2
 
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