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Ice Core:
I'm surprised that no one auto locked this yet.
Ninetales: Basically it can set up the veil for 8 turns and allow lapras/Kyu-b to sweep this team. It also changes the weather and will punish swampert for putting rocks on it by either encoring it or straight up killing it. Moonblast is an option if hail is down and if weather is not a problem anymore so that it can kill keldeo and greninja, and while riskier it can also kill greninja as behind the veil it can take a Gunk shot if at full health and if it has not switched into rocks.
Lapras: If ninetales needs assitance or wants to not take a huge water hit, Lapras can switch in and do the same thing ninetales did, except it would be quite a bit slower. Specs Freeze-Dry can OHKO every member of this team, and it can take most of the hits that the team would throw at it. The only thing that threatens Lapras is specs keldeo, but if it is behind the veil that will not be a problem.
Kyurem-Black: Another sweeper that can outspeed and OHKO the whole team with the exception of mega-swampert. Kyu-b also cannot take hits as well as the other two mentioned but once again if it is behind the veil it will be fine most of the time. Also in order to truly outspeed most of the team kyurem needs a scarf.
Edit: I didn't think greninja wouldn't run gunk shot but boy was I wrong, I'm just shocked that an ice team can actually do well against a very meta team. Also I added some calcs now for some relevant stuff.
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Ninetales-Alola @ Light Clay
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aurora Veil
- Freeze-Dry
- Moonblast
- Encore
Lapras @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 68 HP / 252 SpA / 188 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Freeze-Dry
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Surf
Kyurem-Black @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Fusion Bolt
- Outrage
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aurora Veil
- Freeze-Dry
- Moonblast
- Encore
Lapras @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 68 HP / 252 SpA / 188 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Freeze-Dry
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Surf
Kyurem-Black @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Fusion Bolt
- Outrage
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
I'm surprised that no one auto locked this yet.
Ninetales: Basically it can set up the veil for 8 turns and allow lapras/Kyu-b to sweep this team. It also changes the weather and will punish swampert for putting rocks on it by either encoring it or straight up killing it. Moonblast is an option if hail is down and if weather is not a problem anymore so that it can kill keldeo and greninja,
Bold = Good
Not bold = Not the best
Vs. Keldeo
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola through Light Screen: 131-155 (45.6 - 54%) -- 46.9% chance to 2HKO <- It will get screens up first so this is accurate, however.
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 246-290 (76.1 - 89.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage <- The lack of OHKO may be concerning which is why you might have to sack a mon.
Vs. Greninja
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja: 300-354 (105.2 - 124.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ninetales-Alola: 199-234 (69.3 - 81.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <- Now with rocks this would be a 50% chance for your death assuming screens are down as greninja outspeeds ninetales.
Vs. Swampert-mega
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Swampert-Mega: 340-408 (99.7 - 119.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO <- oh no its not a guarantee D:
228 Atk Swampert-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola through Reflect: 114-134 (39.7 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock <- lol sludge wave does less than this.
Vs. Gyarados
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 336-400 (101.5 - 120.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola through Reflect: 81-96 (28.2 - 33.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola: 322-381 (112.1 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- I mean you are faster than this thing so you will kill it before it even tries to kill you, but if you switch in this will happen if screens aren't down.
Vs. Pelipper
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Pelipper: 448-532 (138.6 - 164.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Pelipper Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ninetales-Alola in Rain: 126-148 (43.9 - 51.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
*Be wary of this thing tho as it will set rain and stop your screens potentially.
Vs. Kingdra
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kingdra: 348-412 (119.5 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ninetales-Alola: 237-280 (82.5 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock <- you will likely switch into this so you can prevent it from using rain, so knowing this will be important.
Not bold = Not the best
Vs. Keldeo
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola through Light Screen: 131-155 (45.6 - 54%) -- 46.9% chance to 2HKO <- It will get screens up first so this is accurate, however.
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 246-290 (76.1 - 89.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage <- The lack of OHKO may be concerning which is why you might have to sack a mon.
Vs. Greninja
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja: 300-354 (105.2 - 124.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ninetales-Alola: 199-234 (69.3 - 81.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <- Now with rocks this would be a 50% chance for your death assuming screens are down as greninja outspeeds ninetales.
Vs. Swampert-mega
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Swampert-Mega: 340-408 (99.7 - 119.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO <- oh no its not a guarantee D:
228 Atk Swampert-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola through Reflect: 114-134 (39.7 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock <- lol sludge wave does less than this.
Vs. Gyarados
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 336-400 (101.5 - 120.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola through Reflect: 81-96 (28.2 - 33.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales-Alola: 322-381 (112.1 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- I mean you are faster than this thing so you will kill it before it even tries to kill you, but if you switch in this will happen if screens aren't down.
Vs. Pelipper
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Pelipper: 448-532 (138.6 - 164.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Pelipper Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ninetales-Alola in Rain: 126-148 (43.9 - 51.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
*Be wary of this thing tho as it will set rain and stop your screens potentially.
Vs. Kingdra
252 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kingdra: 348-412 (119.5 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Ninetales-Alola: 237-280 (82.5 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock <- you will likely switch into this so you can prevent it from using rain, so knowing this will be important.
Lapras: If ninetales needs assitance or wants to not take a huge water hit, Lapras can switch in and do the same thing ninetales did, except it would be quite a bit slower. Specs Freeze-Dry can OHKO every member of this team, and it can take most of the hits that the team would throw at it. The only thing that threatens Lapras is specs keldeo, but if it is behind the veil that will not be a problem.
Bold means good
Not bold means bad
Vs. Pelipper
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Pelipper: 756-892 (234 - 276.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Pelipper Hurricane vs. 68 HP / 0 SpD Lapras: 118-141 (28.2 - 33.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock <- lol
Vs. Gyarados
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gyarados: 564-664 (170.3 - 200.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 68 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 306-361 (73.2 - 86.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock <- This Z-move is a large concern to the team in general, don't allow gyarados to set up is all I can really say, if it does just use kyurem to solve your problems.
Vs. Swampert
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Swampert-Mega: 576-684 (168.9 - 200.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
228 Atk Swampert-Mega Earthquake vs. 68 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 216-255 (51.6 - 61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock <- for the rest of the calcs we are going to make assumptions that you are in the worst case scenario.
Vs. Greninja
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja: 372-440 (130.5 - 154.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Hidden Power Electric vs. 68 HP / 0 SpD Lapras: 229-273 (54.7 - 65.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock <- this made me laugh.
Vs. Kingdra
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kingdra: 588-696 (202 - 239.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 68 HP / 0 SpD Lapras: 294-346 (70.3 - 82.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock <- this is a genuine concern, but even if you lose lapras you have like two other sweepers to take care of this problem, not only that but if there are no rocks ninetales can switch in safely and change the weather.
Vs. Keldeo
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 306-362 (94.7 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO <- This is actually Lapras' worst matchup.
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 68 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 498-588 (119.1 - 140.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- Keldeo is a huge threat to this team, but because it isn't scarfed, kyurem B can bank off of this and revenge kill.
Not bold means bad
Vs. Pelipper
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Pelipper: 756-892 (234 - 276.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Pelipper Hurricane vs. 68 HP / 0 SpD Lapras: 118-141 (28.2 - 33.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock <- lol
Vs. Gyarados
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gyarados: 564-664 (170.3 - 200.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 68 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 306-361 (73.2 - 86.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock <- This Z-move is a large concern to the team in general, don't allow gyarados to set up is all I can really say, if it does just use kyurem to solve your problems.
Vs. Swampert
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Swampert-Mega: 576-684 (168.9 - 200.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
228 Atk Swampert-Mega Earthquake vs. 68 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 216-255 (51.6 - 61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock <- for the rest of the calcs we are going to make assumptions that you are in the worst case scenario.
Vs. Greninja
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Greninja: 372-440 (130.5 - 154.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Hidden Power Electric vs. 68 HP / 0 SpD Lapras: 229-273 (54.7 - 65.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock <- this made me laugh.
Vs. Kingdra
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kingdra: 588-696 (202 - 239.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 68 HP / 0 SpD Lapras: 294-346 (70.3 - 82.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock <- this is a genuine concern, but even if you lose lapras you have like two other sweepers to take care of this problem, not only that but if there are no rocks ninetales can switch in safely and change the weather.
Vs. Keldeo
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 306-362 (94.7 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO <- This is actually Lapras' worst matchup.
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 68 HP / 0 Def Lapras: 498-588 (119.1 - 140.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- Keldeo is a huge threat to this team, but because it isn't scarfed, kyurem B can bank off of this and revenge kill.
Kyurem-Black: Another sweeper that can outspeed and OHKO the whole team with the exception of mega-swampert. Kyu-b also cannot take hits as well as the other two mentioned but once again if it is behind the veil it will be fine most of the time. Also in order to truly outspeed most of the team kyurem needs a scarf.
Bold means good
Not bold means bad
Vs. Pelipper
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 248 HP / 120+ Def Pelipper: 432-512 (133.7 - 158.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Pelipper Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Kyurem-Black: 138-163 (35.2 - 41.6%) -- 73% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Vs. Gyarados
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 652-768 (196.9 - 232%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-Black: 255-300 (65.2 - 76.7%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock <- Um yeah
Vs. Keldeo
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 292-344 (90.4 - 106.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO <- this is disappointing
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-Black: 414-488 (105.8 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Vs. Swampert
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Swampert-Mega: 220-261 (64.5 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <- I wouldn't recommend doing this ngl
228 Atk Swampert-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-Black: 178-211 (45.5 - 53.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Vs. Greninja
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 370-436 (129.8 - 152.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 370-436 (129.8 - 152.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- alternative if you think mega-swampert will switch in
Vs. Kingdra
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 500-590 (171.8 - 202.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- you are likely still rip tho.
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 140-165 (48.1 - 56.7%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO <- in case you think they will switch
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Kyurem-Black: 684-806 (174.9 - 206.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- Get the hell out of there and switch into alolatales if availible.
Not bold means bad
Vs. Pelipper
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 248 HP / 120+ Def Pelipper: 432-512 (133.7 - 158.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Pelipper Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Kyurem-Black: 138-163 (35.2 - 41.6%) -- 73% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Vs. Gyarados
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 652-768 (196.9 - 232%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-Black: 255-300 (65.2 - 76.7%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock <- Um yeah
Vs. Keldeo
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 292-344 (90.4 - 106.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO <- this is disappointing
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-Black: 414-488 (105.8 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Vs. Swampert
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Swampert-Mega: 220-261 (64.5 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <- I wouldn't recommend doing this ngl
228 Atk Swampert-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-Black: 178-211 (45.5 - 53.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Vs. Greninja
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 370-436 (129.8 - 152.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 370-436 (129.8 - 152.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- alternative if you think mega-swampert will switch in
Vs. Kingdra
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 500-590 (171.8 - 202.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- you are likely still rip tho.
252 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-Black Fusion Bolt vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 140-165 (48.1 - 56.7%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO <- in case you think they will switch
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Kyurem-Black: 684-806 (174.9 - 206.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO <- Get the hell out of there and switch into alolatales if availible.
Edit: I didn't think greninja wouldn't run gunk shot but boy was I wrong, I'm just shocked that an ice team can actually do well against a very meta team. Also I added some calcs now for some relevant stuff.
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