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[READ ME] Tips for Simple Hack Checks

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by TheMantyke, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. christopher_ 1942

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    OOOH! It's the Machop you get from an In-Game Trainer! How silly of me to forget about it and thought it was a hacked just because it's level is 9. Thanks!
  2. christopher_ 1942

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    Hi again. I'm here to see if the Pokemon obtained through Wonder Trade are hacked or not.

    Language: GER
    Species: Meowstic
    OT: Mary
    ID No.: 627502
    IVs: HP: Best / Attack: Best / Defense: Fantastic / Sp.Atk: Fantastic / Sp.Def: Fantastic / Speed: Fantastic
    Ability: Competitive
    Pokemon's name: Psiaugon
    Gender: Female
    Level: 100
    Pokeball: Luxury Ball
    Shiny?: Yes
    Pentagon?: +
    Moves: Psychic / Hidden Power Fighting / Thunder Wave / Shadow Ball
    Nature: Timid
    Region of origin: Alola
    Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): Egg Hatched: Apparently 2/9/2017

    Language: FRE
    Species: Virizion
    OT: Nassim
    ID No.: 02914
    IVs: HP: Hyper trained! / Attack: Hyper trained! / Defense: Best / Sp.Atk: Best / Sp.Def: Hyper trained! / Speed: Best
    Ability: Justified
    Pokemon's name: Virizion
    Gender: None
    Level: 100
    Pokeball: Ultra Ball
    Shiny?: Yes
    Pentagon?: Yes
    Moves: Sacred Sword / Leaf Blade / Swords Dance / Stone Edge
    Nature: Jolly
    Region of origin: Hoenn
    Characteristic: Mischeivous
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): This Pokemon traveled across space and time.
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2017
  3. shiny finder

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    A quick Google search didn't turn up anything (which could just mean I didn't look hard enough :P), but nothing short of the fact they're from WT screams "hacked". I mean, self-hatching a shiny, leveling it to 100, and then Wonder Trading it makes you wonder "why?".

    A good rule of thumb though is to only trade things you can source: i.e. you know who the OT is or even better you caught it yourself. Otherwise, it's best to assume it's hacked (which is usually a good assumption for things from the GTS/Wonder Trade/trade with a random passerby).

    I wouldn't trade them because something about them seem hacked (they look legal), but because you just don't know if they are.

    edit @ below: yes
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2017
  4. Dreamox

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    @ The above Virizon, can it legally have "traveled across space and time" while still having the Gen 6 Pentagon?
  5. Karada

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    Is it possible to have a pokemon in a park ball in pokemon sun?

    Edit: it is okay I got my answer Rapti Park Balls are always hacked.
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  6. Usernamesarestupid

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  7. .com

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  8. dkl65

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    Language: English
    Species: Suicune
    OT: John
    ID No.: 49212
    IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
    Ability: Pressure
    Pokemon's name: SUICUNE
    Gender: none
    Level: 100
    Pokeball: Master Ball
    Shiny?: No
    Pentagon?: No
    Moves: Rest, Calm Mind (PP Maxed), Scald, Toxic (may not have came with these moves)
    Nature: Bold
    Region of origin: Sinnoh
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain.
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): This is on my brother's Pokemon Black game from a long time ago. It was from a trade.

    Language: Japanese
    Species: Latias
    OT: ヒトシ
    ID No.: 44499
    IVs: decent all around, HP is very good
    Ability: Levitate
    Pokemon's name: ラティアス
    Gender: female
    Level: 50 (I trained it to 51)
    Pokeball: Ultra Ball
    Shiny?: Yes
    Pentagon?: No
    Moves: Psychic, Thunderbolt, Dragon Pulse, Calm Mind (I taught these)
    Nature: Calm
    Region of origin: Hoenn
    Characteristic: Often scatters things
    Ribbons: League Ribbon01
    Other comments (optional): This is on my Pokemon Black game from a long time ago. It was from a trade. I trained it a bit.
  9. LegoFigure11

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    Hack
    There's nothing strictly illegal about it (going by the information that you've given here, at least). But a shiny RSE Latias obtained in a random trade is very suspicious nonetheless, and I certainly wouldn't trade it here.
  10. dkl65

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    There is also a Japanese Latias on my brother's Pokemon Black game. It says it is from Sinnoh but everything else is not suspicious. Would that be hacked?
  11. Bluemew.

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    It is hacked, it cannot be caught in either platinum nor pearl/diamond.
    You can check on serebii or bulbapedia which legends can be caught in which games or check if the OT belongs to an event.
  12. Doobzi

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    Language: English
    Species: Greninja
    OT: Based#God420
    ID No.: 26323
    IVs: 31/31/30/30/31/30
    EVs (optional): 252 Sp.Att / 252 Spe / 4 Att
    Ability: Proteon
    Pokemon's name: Greninja
    Gender: Male
    Level: 100
    Pokeball: Diveball
    Shiny?: Yes
    Pentagon?: Yes
    Moves: Hydro Pump / Gunk Shot / Hidden Power / Ice Beam
    Nature: Hasty
    Region of origin: Kalos
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain
    Ribbons:Skillful Battler Ribbon and Expert Battle Ribbon
    Other comments (optional): This Greninja has been traded around smogon threads for awhile but no one seems to have checked its legitmacy. Another smogon user helped me determine the veracity of this pokemon and this is the best we can find:

    https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/18343508/

    But even that isn't conclusive. There's no evidence to determine where it has come from but has been in circulation for awhile.

    Hacked or not? It's fully-redis and listed on a few trade threads here.
  13. christopher_ 1942

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    Another shiny Pokemon obtained from Wonder Trade that needs hack checking.

    Language: FRE
    Species: Blastoise
    OT: YouTubeREM27
    ID No.: 09145
    IVs: HP: Best / Attack: Best / Defense: Best / Sp.Atk: Best / Sp.Def: Best / Speed: Best
    Ability: Competitive
    Pokemon's name: Tortank
    Gender: Male
    Level: 100
    Pokeball: Luxury Ball
    Shiny?: Yes
    Pentagon?: Yes
    Moves: Rapid Spin / Scald / Ice Beam / Dark Pulse
    Nature: Bold
    Region of origin: Kalos
    Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): Seems to have traveled across both space and time to reach you from the Kalos region.

    Is it hacked?
  14. Sondero

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    Doesn't seem like there's anything that's 100% illegal about the Blastoise itself. But I checked the Youtube channel of the person with that OT, and it seems like they've distributed some hacks before (like Mew and Volcanion over WT). I wouldn't trust any of their stuff to not be hacked for a second, even if they're "legal".

    Edit: when it comes to getting Amazing Pokemon that seem too good to be true from Wondertrade, it's better to just assume that the Mon is hacked than wasting time on checking it like this. Because best case scenario, it will be legal, but since it's so easy to pass hacks through wondertrade and how many Twitch streamers/youtubers do it for advertising, the likelyhood of the Pokemon being bred/soft reset for legitimately is very low.
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2017
  15. IQMathlete

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    Can you guys check this Volcanion I got in a trade? I feel like 6 IV events aren't legit.
    Language: German
    Species: Volcanion
    OT: Japanese thing
    ID No.: 04166
    IVs: Best all
    EVs (optional): None
    Ability: Water Absorb
    Pokemon's name: Volcanion
    Gender: n/a
    Level: 70
    Pokeball: Cherish
    Shiny?: No
    Pentagon?: Yes
    Moves: Steam Eruption, Overheat, Hydro Pump, Mist
    Nature: Rash
    Region of origin: Hoenn
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): Person who traded it assured it was legit.
  16. Johta

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    Doesn't seem like there's anything bizarrely wrong with it. Either way, my personal rule is that unless I get it from someone I trust, I'm skeptical of event-only pokemon with perfect IVs. In this case it's entirely up to you to believe what this person has told you or not.
  17. BlizzardHero

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    Unfortunately, I can say that this Volcanion is very much hacked, or at least it has been modified in some way. All Event Pokemon now come with the "Classic Ribbon" (Or possibly the "Wishing Ribbon" in Japan, though it depends on the Pokemon) attached, and your Volcanion does not. That would be the biggest indicator. But there are several oddities that would raise large flags.

    First, as you said, 6IV Legends are very suspicious. Given that RNG Abuse could only be done by a supercomputer in Gen 6 (I'm joking, but seriously, RNG was not a thing in Gen 6), it's hard to assume that someone was able to SR a 6IV version.

    Secondly, it's odd that the OT is for the Japanese version, but the text is set for Germany. EU Volcanions will have the OT Helen like the rest of the world, however, the owner could have conceivable been a German using a Japanese 3DS with a Japanese Cart and have gotten the Japanese event by going to Japan and pre-booking for the movie, however, that is unlikely. (Honestly, regions are a bit weird, I'm not sure if changing your language also changes your region, since I don't own a non NA Cart, I'll never know, so this might not even be possible.)

    In all, it's safe to say that this Volcanion is not trustworthy, and should probably be released. Sorry.
  18. Thundersamurott

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    Hey guys I got myself a shiny from a wondertrade. I was thinking it's a shiny from wondertrade so released it now but it's strange.
    Language: CHT
    Species: Dusknoir (was a Dusclops)
    OT: Chinese❤Only
    ID No.: 308491
    IVs: HP, Attack, Defence= Decent
    Sp. Def, Speed= Pretty Good
    Sp.Atk= Very Good
    EVs (optional): Didn't fully invested it's EVs
    Ability: Pressure
    Pokemon's name: tiny.cc/Aa-y
    Gender: Female
    Level: 39
    Pokeball: PokeBall
    Shiny?: Yes
    Pentagon?: Yes, the clover one
    Moves: Will-o-Wisp, Confuse Ray, Curse, Hex
    Nature: Lonely
    Region of origin: Alola
    Characteristic: Often lost in thought
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): It was a Dusclops when I got it and evolved because it has the reaper cloth. It's name is weird because it looks like a glitch from a hacked software, but it's level, nature and other stuff makes it look like it's normal. I don't know if this the new way hackers distribute their hacks through the wondertrade or just someone made of mistake that he sends of his shiny rather than the yungoos besides it.
  19. LegoFigure11

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    Bad hack/edit. CHT region + english OT (and name) says this, and also the nickname is a shortened url to a pokemon-related facebook group - so they're advertising their group by distributing poor edits on WT. 100% hacked.
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  20. Thundersamurott

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    Well thanks for the heads up! I really wish that these advertisments in the social media are stop, it very rude and annoying and it always pops up in my recommendations.
  21. christopher_ 1942

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    Another Pokemon from Wonder Trade that needs hack checking:

    Language: ENG
    Species: Doublade
    OT: Brad
    ID No.: 746858
    IVs: All 31 IVs
    Ability: No Guard
    Pokemon's name: Doublade
    Gender: Female
    Level: 50
    Pokeball: Love Ball
    Shiny?: No
    Pentagon?: No
    Moves: Protect / Swords Dance / Iron Head / Shadow Sneak
    Nature: Careful
    Region of origin: Alola
    Characteristic: Mischeivous
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): Egg received and hatched apparently 5/31/17
  22. BlizzardHero

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    Again, the age old rule of "Don't use anything you get off the WT" applies. However, nothing looks wrong about it. Honedge can be obtained in a Love Ball via Island Scan, and it was bred so it can get Egg Moves. I'm assuming it has the cross symbol indicate it was born in Gen 7 (If that's not the case, then it would be hacked)?

    While there's no reason to assume it was hacked, beacuse anything of the WT is sketchy unless it's an utterly horrid Pokemon (in stats, not actually a bad Pokemon), I would recommend either just shelving it or releasing it.
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  23. christopher_ 1942

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    OK, thanks about the Doublade.


    About the rule thing, I'm sorry for being too honest but in the Pokemon Sun version, I bred a Mimikyu to participate in VGC battles using a Japanese Mimikyu obtained through Wonder Trade a long while ago. I know many Trainers think Wonder Trade is sketchy sometimes but this Mimikyu I got from it looked alright and not hacked at all by looking at her summary:


    Language: JPN
    Species: Mimikyu
    OT: (Japanese Name)
    ID No.: 275777
    IVs: HP : Decent / Attack: Pretty good / Defense: No good / Sp.Atk: Pretty good / Sp.Def: Very good / Speed: Decent
    Ability: Disguise
    Pokemon's name: (Japanese nickname)
    Gender: Female
    Level: 1
    Pokeball: Heal Ball
    Shiny?: No
    Pentagon?: No
    Moves: Splash / Scratch / Astonish / Copycat
    Nature: Brave
    Region of origin: Alola
    Characteristic: Somewhat vain
    Ribbons: None
    Other comments (optional): Egg received at 12/27/2016 and hatched apparently 12/28/2016 in Poke Pelago.

    Please do not get mad at me and put me in the blacklist after I told you I've done this but I just thought this Mimikyu is not suspicious and looks alright for breeding.
  24. BlizzardHero

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    Oh, it's not that most people don't trust WT, it's just that if something looks too good to be true, then it probably is.

    If it has horrible stats, or at least resembles a spitback of sorts, you're usually good. Your parent Mimikyu looks fine, beacuse there's no competitive value in it. Your Mimikyu is probably fine to be used.
  25. christopher_ 1942

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    Phew, thank you. I was worried I might get into trouble because of that.

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