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Memoric and I have decided to redo the system for Tags in the Checks and Counters section of the analyses. This update has been reflected in the DOU C&C Guide, but I've copied and pasted the desciptions below in an effort to explain the new tags. In general, we're working to fix the vagueness and obscurity of the previous tags, making it easier to simply scroll through and see what exactly bothers the Pokemon in question.
**x-type Pokemon**: This is always the first set of tags and is fairly straightforward; if the analyzed Pokemon struggles with foes of a particular type or types, then state these in the tag and list a few of the most common and threatening such foes, as well as what they can do to the analyzed Pokemon. This can apply to an advantage that is either Offensive or Defensive in nature. However, these tags should not be used as a simple type chart. Only state types that are especially notable in checking the specified Pokemon.
**Intimidate and Burns**: If the Pokemon is a physical attacker, include this tag with a few of the more relevant threats of this kind to said Pokemon. If only one of the two applies, it is acceptable to state only **Intimidate** or **Burns**
**Faster Pokemon**: This tag generally applies to Pokemon that are especially reliant in moving first, and dislikes Choice Scarf users, Speed Boost Pokemon, and naturally fast threats. As with any other tag, state a few examples of Pokemon that win due to their speed and why they are checks.
**(Form of Speed Control)**: Similarly to **Faster Pokemon**, this tag is used for Pokemon that become significantly less threatening under various forms of Speed Control. The forms of Speed Control should be listed in the order: Paralysis, Tailwind, and Trick Room; omitting any of the three that may be irrelevant. Icy Wind, although a form of speed control, should only be mentioned if it is super effective, and falls under **x-type Pokemon**. For example, as Salamence is weak to Icy Wind, under **Steel-type Pokemon**, when Jirachi is mentioned, Icy Wind should be discussed as one of the reasons that it in particular is a check to Salamence.
**Priority Attacks**: If the analyzed Pokemon is weak to all forms of priority due to general frailty or holding a Focus Sash, this tag should be used, with a few common priority attacks and their users listed for clarity. However, if the Pokemon in question is only weak to a couple forms of priority due to its typing, that should be included within the **x-type Pokemon** tag.
**Strong Physical Attackers**: This tag should be used for Pokemon that have an overall low HP and Defense stat, meaning that Pokemon such as Mega Kangaskhan and other powerhouses typically beat it. A **Strong Special Attackers** tag is also appropriate and should be used like this one.
**Opposing Weather**: If the Pokemon's attacks, defenses, or abilities rely on a certain weather condition (Blizzard sweepers, SolarBeam sweepers, Heatran vs Rain, Blastoise vs Sun, etc.), then mention the opposing weather teams as threats. Keep in mind that if the Pokemon is threatened by certain weather sweepers and not the weather itself, those threats belong under **x-type Pokemon**.
**Spread Attackers**: If the Pokemon in question is a user of Rage Powder or Follow Me, use this tag and specify which Spread Attackers are most threatening to said Pokemon, as Spread Attackers prevent the analyzed Pokemon from protecting its teammate.
Miscellaneous:
For situations that do not apply to one of the above tags, simply make a tag named after the check in question. Some examples of such tags include: if the analyzed Pokemon is especially threatened by Encore, Taunt, Fake Out, Sleep or Substitute; if Knock Off cripples the analyzed Pokemon purely because it loses the item (If the Pokemon is weak to the attack itself, put it in **Dark-type Pokemon**); if Wide Guard or Quick Guard are hindrances to the Pokemon in question doing its job.
If you have any comments, questions, or concerns about this new system, this thread is the place for that!
**x-type Pokemon**: This is always the first set of tags and is fairly straightforward; if the analyzed Pokemon struggles with foes of a particular type or types, then state these in the tag and list a few of the most common and threatening such foes, as well as what they can do to the analyzed Pokemon. This can apply to an advantage that is either Offensive or Defensive in nature. However, these tags should not be used as a simple type chart. Only state types that are especially notable in checking the specified Pokemon.
**Intimidate and Burns**: If the Pokemon is a physical attacker, include this tag with a few of the more relevant threats of this kind to said Pokemon. If only one of the two applies, it is acceptable to state only **Intimidate** or **Burns**
**Faster Pokemon**: This tag generally applies to Pokemon that are especially reliant in moving first, and dislikes Choice Scarf users, Speed Boost Pokemon, and naturally fast threats. As with any other tag, state a few examples of Pokemon that win due to their speed and why they are checks.
**(Form of Speed Control)**: Similarly to **Faster Pokemon**, this tag is used for Pokemon that become significantly less threatening under various forms of Speed Control. The forms of Speed Control should be listed in the order: Paralysis, Tailwind, and Trick Room; omitting any of the three that may be irrelevant. Icy Wind, although a form of speed control, should only be mentioned if it is super effective, and falls under **x-type Pokemon**. For example, as Salamence is weak to Icy Wind, under **Steel-type Pokemon**, when Jirachi is mentioned, Icy Wind should be discussed as one of the reasons that it in particular is a check to Salamence.
**Priority Attacks**: If the analyzed Pokemon is weak to all forms of priority due to general frailty or holding a Focus Sash, this tag should be used, with a few common priority attacks and their users listed for clarity. However, if the Pokemon in question is only weak to a couple forms of priority due to its typing, that should be included within the **x-type Pokemon** tag.
**Strong Physical Attackers**: This tag should be used for Pokemon that have an overall low HP and Defense stat, meaning that Pokemon such as Mega Kangaskhan and other powerhouses typically beat it. A **Strong Special Attackers** tag is also appropriate and should be used like this one.
**Opposing Weather**: If the Pokemon's attacks, defenses, or abilities rely on a certain weather condition (Blizzard sweepers, SolarBeam sweepers, Heatran vs Rain, Blastoise vs Sun, etc.), then mention the opposing weather teams as threats. Keep in mind that if the Pokemon is threatened by certain weather sweepers and not the weather itself, those threats belong under **x-type Pokemon**.
**Spread Attackers**: If the Pokemon in question is a user of Rage Powder or Follow Me, use this tag and specify which Spread Attackers are most threatening to said Pokemon, as Spread Attackers prevent the analyzed Pokemon from protecting its teammate.
Miscellaneous:
For situations that do not apply to one of the above tags, simply make a tag named after the check in question. Some examples of such tags include: if the analyzed Pokemon is especially threatened by Encore, Taunt, Fake Out, Sleep or Substitute; if Knock Off cripples the analyzed Pokemon purely because it loses the item (If the Pokemon is weak to the attack itself, put it in **Dark-type Pokemon**); if Wide Guard or Quick Guard are hindrances to the Pokemon in question doing its job.
If you have any comments, questions, or concerns about this new system, this thread is the place for that!
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