Feliburn
RU Leader
Following the Hoopa-Unbound ban, the RU council has decided to take action regarding 3 of the most controversial Pokémon around.
The entire metagame felt all over the place, so we've decided to add a spin to this upcoming suspect test.
You may only vote for ONLY ONE of these Pokémon to be banned, but only the Pokémon with the most "Ban" votes will be banned, while the others will remain in the RU tier.
To go a bit more in detail about the suspect tested elements:
Iron Leaves is currently a potent set-up sweeper thanks to Booster Energy + Swords Dance and a nearly unresisted coverage in Psyblade, Leaf Blade and Close Combat. It's able to boost its Speed stat while running less Attack EVs, while still keeping a respectable damage output after a Swords Dance. It can run Tera Fire to better handle Moltres, one of its better checks, or Tera Fight, for more powerful Close Combat and better priority resistance overall. We've also seen max Attack sets with Trailblaze, which means you'll have harder hitting Psyblades at the cost of running a less powerful Grass Stab, while having to click it to earn the Speed boost you really need. Faster Choice Scarf users, such as Infernape and Gengar, are able to hit this Pokémon for super effective damage prior to a Tera. Defensively, your best bet is to run a Foul Play Pokémon as it sets up, something like Amoonguss with a good Tera that can resist the coverage it runs.
Thundurus-Therian is naturally a great breaker to use thanks to the colorful coverage coming from such a high Special Attack stat. It's best check has always been Cyclizar, but even then it's able to break past it thanks to either Knock Off + Focus Blast, or Nasty Plot + Tera Fly Tera Blast. This coverage is also the main reason why handling Thundurus-Therian is such a pain, as it can run Grass Knot for stuff like Rhyperior or Gastrodon, and Psychic for something like Amoonguss (this one gets bopped by Tera Fly Tera Blast anyway). Offensive pressure has always been the best way of handling Thundurus. So fast hitting mons like Zoroark-Hisui, Gengar, Stone Edge Cobalion, etc., are usually the better and more reliable ways to KO a Thundurus-Therian.
Enamorus-Therian has a spot on this list due to how hard it is to wall strong hitting Moonblasts, but also due to how difficult it can be to KO an Enamorus that has set up. Being so naturally bulky makes for easy Calm Mind opportunities. It has coverage to hit Steel types in Earth Power or Mystical Fire, and it also has Draining Kiss to recover health easily. If we add Tera on top of it, then it's a big question mark on how you should be handling this Pokémon. Moltres has started to use Brave Bird to get past Calm Mind boosted Enamorus, as it resists every move Enamorus has. Empoleon is also a Steel type that has picked up more recently, and it can hit Enamorus really hard with Ice Beam. Empoleon also punishes Mystical Fire & Earth Power drops thanks to Competitive. Rhyperior is an option that has been seeing more usage lately. It can hit Enamorus hard thanks to its Rock type STAB, but it can also hit it post Tera, as Enamorus usually defaults to Poison or Steel for defensive options.
With that being said, it's up to the community to see which of these Pokémon will be sent to the RUBL, and which will stay in the tier roaming free. Tagging dhelmise and Marty to announce it on the RU ladder, thank you both.
GXE | minimum games |
78 | 50 |
78.2 | 49 |
78.4 | 48 |
78.6 | 47 |
78.8 | 46 |
79 | 45 |
79.2 | 44 |
79.4 | 43 |
79.6 | 42 |
79.8 | 41 |
80 | 40 |
80.2 | 39 |
80.4 | 38 |
80.6 | 37 |
80.8 | 36 |
81 | 35 |
81.2 | 34 |
81.4 | 33 |
81.6 | 32 |
81.8 | 31 |
82 | 30 |
Suspect information:
- There will be no draws allowed for any potential qualifiers. If you qualify with draws, your suspect requirements will not count, and you will not be allowed to vote. There is no way to actively enforce ties to prevent abuse, so they will be disallowed. Use stall at your own risk.
- All games must be played on the Pokémon Showdown! RU ladder on a new alt with the following format: "RUAF (nickname)”. For example, RUAF ROFLL or RUAF LMAOO.
- Do NOT impersonate other people in your ladder alt, do NOT use any usernames which are offensive, flame-baiting, or targeting specific users, and do NOT use usernames which could be interpreted as breaking any of the username rules on Pokémon Showdown! Failure to abide to this will result in you being barred from voting in this suspect, and potential infractions.
- The suspect test will last for two weekends, ending on Sunday, April 7th. 9:59pm - 4
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