NOC Popcorn Mafia 3 Game Thread

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I am moving tbz up my shot preference

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

HH is hitting accurate tone reads on Ehmcee and Chad and also reading oden and pulsar +town vibes in #1182, feels like it speaks with HH as a vibes player, also random clouds vote on pulse in #1143

 

[JALMONT]

how likely is it that tbz and realiti were both scum trying to pocket whydon

Do you think whydon had legitimate reads or was just guessing? I don’t know what those interpersonal dynamics look like to really say.

I think guess but like I can imagine a world in which maybe they interact enough elsewhere so they do feel whydon can read them well enough to try and need to try and get on his side

 

[master oden]

Do you think whydon had legitimate reads or was just guessing? I don’t know what those interpersonal dynamics look like to really say.

I think guess but like I can imagine a world in which maybe they interact enough elsewhere so they do feel whydon can read them well enough to try and need to try and get on his side

no idea, I've never played with whydon so I really can't make a statement there

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Noting that CB thinks TBZ can read them around page 50 and calls out TBZ for not doing so in #1274

 

[master oden]

Thunder~BALLZ hello the banana zpritzee. wheres your head at rn? I've seen you viewing gthe thread but you haven't been posting. give us something

 

[JALMONT]

as much as i can never readd whydon they're a damn good player

Ok sorry I was looking back to find the “pocketing” and found this lol

 

[JALMONT]

i was thinking that oden -> jalmont ends the game. :/

then do it and end the game im down for it

Can you both explain to me what exactly this end game looks like

what exactly do you expect me to do with the gun? I’m just supposed to win the game?

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

i agree with flyhn now, his opener was rough with the whole "don't hero shoot" thing but he's gotten significantly more townie

on the contrary zippy's posting has been pretty bad and i was leaning towards voting him after reading his iso. search his posts here and look at his first handful of messages, the appearing disconnected thing at the start can easily be an act. he also chimed in saying i'm mafia "based on the data" and left thread without ever expanding, and he has a ton of useless i think this but also could be this shrugposts like #1071 that feel hesitant to assert a stance

also i think pulsar is likely town IF zippy is scum if you look at #1077, that reeks of tmi read

Psypsypsypsypsythe i'll read a pulsar game later, shift my vote here:

Vote ZippyDoo200

not super sure if i'll end up here cause i don't have unyielding confidence in the read, but it seems like a good vote compared to several others

i'd rule out realiti, flyhn, texas, oj, then maybe tommy and tbz for votes today, and i also kinda want to shield AG here since i think the game stagnated with him as lead wagon in a way it wouldn't if he was mafia

This post looks extremely indicative

a) clouds continues their style of honest town with light protection, protecting scum buddy flyhn
b) pivots to pushing and voting zippy as an alternative
c) IMPORTANT: mirrors earlier post, calls pulsar town if zippy scum, directly matching earlier quoted post of Oden town if duskfall scum
d) slides tbz seemingly at random into don't vote group

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

#1305 zippy responds to clouds post with omgus
#1310 LS steps onto the AG wagon
#1312 clouds lightly shaded pulsar
Page 54/55 clouds and zippy come into conflict, tone reads genuine
#1364 clouds adds more pressure to zippy wagon, piggybacking my scum read of zippy

If zippy and clouds were partners this would be a complete break from every other interaction clouds has had with a partner in thread to this point

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

DAY ONE VOTECOUNT 1.6 - PSY
CaffeineBoost (3) - Psypsypsypsypsythe, Duskfall98, Ehmcee
ZippyDoo200 (3) - Aura Guardian, Clouds, Texas Cloverleaf
Aura Guardian (2) - Flyhn, Lady Salamence
skippergamez (2) - realiti, ZippyDoo200
Celever (2) - Ehmcee, pulsar512b
Ehmcee (2) - Thunder~BALLZ, master oden
realiti (1) - skippergamez
master oden (1) - Celever

sorry I'm at work and I honestly forgot this game was happening plus not easy to do on mobile so here

Zippy wagon at this stage is two scum and me, AG wagon is both scum, tbz is on town

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

might be s/s

Calls zippy/Ehmcee s/s

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Zippy wagon at this stage is two scum and me, AG wagon is both scum, tbz is on town

Actually noting realiti started the skip wagon that's three top wagons being scum initiated

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Tbz > Oden > pulsar solves I think, I don't see a world where jalmont slot is scum

 

[ScorrchingTheaph]

whats making me flipflop between pulsar and Texas is that Texas wanted to vote realiti since d1, and while I feel that might be legit, I feel that it could equally as likely be bus, and Texas is more likely partner with realiti than pulsar I feel. I dont doubt that scum Texas would have the balls to bus their scummate. Pulsar on the other hand hasn't really been providing much until recently, which just rubs me the wrong way.

I can sort of see what u mean in the last line but it's also that I think the tunnel vision on Chad seems genuine

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

ZippyDoo200 (4) - Aura Guardian, Clouds, Texas Cloverleaf, master oden
Aura Guardian (3) - Flyhn, Lady Salamence, skippergamez
skippergamez (2) - realiti, ZippyDoo200
master oden (2) - Celever, Psypsypsypsypsythe
CaffeineBoost (2) - Duskfall98, Ehmcee
Ehmcee (1) - Thunder~BALLZ
realiti (1) - skippergamez
Celever (1) - pulsar512b

figured it out, ehmcee was somehow on psy's last vc twice (i did that buncha times in vnv) but they're on caff as far as i can tell

Next VC update has oden coming onto the zippy wagon and skip onto AG to push them into the clear top two

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

if you do get shot and you're town, i'd almost lock zippy in as scum for the way he's defending you when the majority of the game is scumreading you so yeah this isn't a bad trajectory. still better to not be hasty, but i think it's a good look that you're already considering options as if you're getting gun

Clouds continues to defend AG and shade zippy im the same breath

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

i think zippy>ag ag hasn't really done anything sus other than be inactive which implies nothing imo

Pulsar piggybacks clouds, stands out to me as someone called a meta read on scum! pulsar saying they have trouble generating content and tends to echo their scum partners

 

[ScorrchingTheaph]

My observation:
#429 pulsar returns to thread fluffing against scum!LS, if scum!pulsar this suggests pulse wants to re-enter thread safely against a partner, continues to interact and fluff against LS throughout page 21 and on
#530 Aura Guardian town reads six people including LadyMence and four known town, calls LS/pulsar TvT which is known to be false
#588 LS claims to have been pushing pulsar, but every post to this point was either fluff or Charmin soft pressure

#530 would b crazy to me to call a S/S a T/T. agree/disagree?

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

might be confbiasing but i feel like that mc post on zippy is the exact type of post you make to bus your partner

More evidence

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

#530 would b crazy to me to call a S/S a T/T. agree/disagree?

Disagree, I think AG was trying to obfuscate connections and slide LS and maybe pulse in alongside other TRs. If their comment on LS/pulse was the only thing in their post then I would agree, but not hidden amongst the rest of the content

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

VOTECOUNT 1.8 - PSY
ZippyDoo200 (5) - Aura Guardian, Clouds, Texas Cloverleaf, Ehmcee, pulsar512b
Aura Guardian (4) - Flyhn, Lady Salamence, skippergamez, Psypsypsypsypsythe
CaffeineBoost (2) - Duskfall98, master oden
Ehmcee (2) - Thunder~BALLZ, realiti
skippergamez (1) - ZippyDoo200
master oden (1) - Celever

the way pulsar hopped onto zippy was also kinda weird but idk

Oh fucking A sorry Ehmcee, Psy screwed up the vote count, pulsar was the fourth vote on zippy not you

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

#530 would b crazy to me to call a S/S a T/T. agree/disagree?

To be extra clear this is specifically because it was AG saying it, they were shifting around d their style all over the place day 1, from open wolfing to emotional begging to mixing around reads on known scum and town, I think their motivation was to create chaos and make it hard to establish clear connections if they were going down.

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I suppose in some respect the order of the shot doesn't matter, if I believe jalmont slot is always town then it's impossible to lose in lylo

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Which to that same point it's a scum lose condition to have one person be locked town unless they are that person because scum must have town misfire at 3 to win