Gen 3 ADV Bagon [Done]

[BP]

[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Double-Edge
move 3: Brick Break
move 4: Hydro Pump / Hidden Power Ghost
item: Lum Berry
ability: Rock Head
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
After just one Dragon Dance, Bagon outspeeds the entirety of the unboosted metagame bar Voltorb. This, coupled with its already respectable base Attack and its rare typing, cements Bagon as an extremely effective mid-game wallbreaker and sweeper. Double-Edge is Bagon's strongest physical option, allowing it to threaten common special attackers like Elekid, Staryu, and Chinchou after a Dragon Dance. Additionally, Double-Edge hits a majority of the metagame for neutral damage. Bagon is also able to negate the recoil damage from Double-Edge thanks to Rock Head. Brick Break primarily targets Normal- and Steel-types like Aipom, Delcatty, and Magnemite, but it also 2HKOes physically defensive Lileep at +2. Hydro Pump threatens Rock- and Ground-types like Rhyhorn and Cubone. Alternatively, Bagon can use Hidden Power Ghost to avoid being walled by the tier's only Ghost-type, Shuppet. A Lum Berry provides Bagon with a free setup opportunity against status users. The most notable instance of this is against Elekid that may try to use Toxic or Thunder Wave to reduce Bagon's chances of sweeping.

Bagon excels on offense and balance teams that aim to take advantage of Elekid that lack Ice Punch. It can withstand one Thunderbolt when healthy and can outspeed and OHKO it after one Dragon Dance boost. Wallbreakers like Pidgeotto and Aipom appreciate this immensely, as Elekid outspeeds them and threatens them with Thunderbolt. Secondary sweepers such as Masquerain, Croconaw, Growlithe, and Butterfree all benefit from Elekid's removal as well. These sweepers can also act as mid-game breakers if Bagon is more poised for a successful late-game. Butterfree is worth mentioning, as its access to Sleep Powder creates more opportunities for Bagon to set up. Bagon can be completely walled by Koffing, so special attackers that threaten it such as Chinchou, Croconaw, and Elekid pair well with Bagon. Elekid is worth mentioning, as it can offensively check Aipom so Bagon doesn't need to rely on a Speed boost from Dragon Dance.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bagon has a few other options due to its move pool, but unfortunately, it can't make proper use of them because of its stats or ability. Using Dragon Claw may seem like a good option; however, with base 40 Special Attack, running a Dragon-type STAB move is pointless. Facade may also seem like a worthwhile option, but Bagon lacks Guts, so poison is the only acceptable status.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Koffing**: Bagon is unable to 2HKO Koffing with Double-Edge at +1. This allows Koffing to reliably switch into Bagon and 2HKO in return with Sludge Bomb.

**Shuppet**: Shuppet can easily withstand a Hydro Pump and cripple Bagon with its status options or 2HKO with Shadow Ball. Shuppet must be wary of Hidden Power Ghost, as it OHKOes even without an Attack boost.

**Dustox**: Dustox can withstand one Double-Edge at +1 from Bagon and can use Whirlwind to phase it out.

**Faster Attackers**: Bagon is quite frail and is easily threatened by faster attackers that have moves it doesn't resist such as Aipom, Chinchou, and Delibird. These Pokemon make setup opportunities hard to find.

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[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Double-Edge
move 3: Brick Break
move 4: Hydro Pump / Hidden Power Ghost
item: Lum Berry
ability: Rock Head
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
After just one Dragon Dance, Bagon outspeeds the entirety of the unboosted metagame bar Voltorb. This coupled with its already respectable base Attack and its coveted rare typing cement Bagon as an extremely effective midgame wallbreaker and sweeper. While Dragon typing does provide resistances to common types like Electric and FWG, it brings a very notable weakness to Ice, arguably the most common coverage in the tier, and lack of a STAB move (minor nitpick) Double-Edge is Bagon's strongest physical option allowing it to threaten common special attackers like Elekid, Staryu, and Chincho. Worth mentioning this is after a DD boost, and also that Double-Edge has no recoil due to Rock Head. Brick Break primarily targets Normal-types like Aipom, Delcatty, and Castform, but it also 2HKOes physically defensive Lileep at +2. Mention Steel types aswell Hydro Pump threatens Rock- and Ground-types like Rhyhorn and Cubone while providing Bagon with an option to hit Shuppet. The major benefit of Hydro is OHKO'ing standard Rhyhorns (any that lack significant SpDef investment), while Hydro Pump vs Shuppet is less than ideal. If Shuppet is a concern, then it'd be better to run HP Ghost as +1 Brick Break can still deal with Rhyhorn, albeit Bagon risks being OHKO'd in return Alternatively, Bagon can use Hidden Power Ghost to avoid being walled by the tier's only Ghost-type, Shuppet. A Lum Berry provides Bagon with a free setup opportunity against status users. The most notable instance of this is against Lileep where you can reliably use Dragon Dance twice at the cost of taking a Toxic.

Bagon excels on offense and balance teams that aim to take advantage of Elekid that lack Ice Punch. It can withstand one Thunderbolt when healthy and outspeed and OHKO after one Dragon Dance boost. Wallbreakers like Pidgeotto and Aipom appreciate this immensely as Elekid outspeeds them and threatens them with Thunderbolt. Secondary sweepers such as Masquerain, Croconaw, Growlithe, and Butterfree all benefit from Elekid's removal as well. These sweepers can also act as mid-game breakers if Bagon is more poised for a successful late-game. Butterfree is worth mentioning as its access to Sleep Powder creates more opportunities for Bagon to set up. Bagon can be completely walled by Koffing so special attackers that threaten it such Chinchou, Croconaw, and Elekid pair well with Bagon. Elekid is worth mentioning as it can offensively check Aipom so Bagon doesn't need to rely on a boost.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bagon has no other viable options that wouldn't take away from its only set.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Koffing**: Koffing is 4HKOed 3HKOed by Double-Edge at +1 making it stronger than Hydro Pump. This allows Koffing to completely wall reliably switch into Bagon and cripple it with a Will-O-Wisp or a Sludge Bomb poison 2HKO in return with Sludge Bomb. If Bagon still has its Lum Berry, it's better for Koffing just attack instead of relying on Willo's shaky accuracy for little benefit.

**Shuppet**: Shuppet can easily withstand a Hydro Pump and cripple it with its status options. Shuppet must be weary of Hidden Power Ghost as it OHKOes even without an Attack boost. Shuppet users will generally just attack with SBall as it 2HKOs

**Dustox**: Dustox can withstand one Double-Edge at +1 from Bagon and can use Whirlwind to phase it out.

I would include something regarding Bagon's frailty to any attacks it does not resist, making setup opportunities hard to find (against the likes of Choice Banders and Pokemon that commonly carry Ice Coverage, such as Chinchou, Staryu, and Castform).

[SET CREDITS]
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QC [1/2] when implemented, good work! Really fun Pokémon to use :)

 

[Gangsta Spongebob]

Good job, 2/2 when implemented

QC 2/2

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[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Double-Edge
move 3: Brick Break
move 4: Hydro Pump / Hidden Power Ghost
item: Lum Berry
ability: Rock Head
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
After just one Dragon Dance, Bagon outspeeds the entirety of the unboosted metagame bar Voltorb. This coupled with its already respectable base Attack and its rare typing cement Bagon as an extremely effective midgame wallbreaker and sweeper. Double-Edge is Bagon's strongest physical option allowing it to threaten common special attackers like Elekid, Staryu, and Chincho after a Dragon Dance boost. State that it's strong against the general metagame Bagon is also able to negate the recoil damage from Double Edge thanks to Rock Head. Brick Break primarily targets Normal- and Steel-types like Aipom, Delcatty, and Magnemite but it also 2HKOes physically defensive Lileep at +2. Hydro Pump threatens Rock- and Ground-types like Rhyhorn and Cubone. Alternatively, Bagon can use Hidden Power Ghost to avoid being walled by the tier's only Ghost-type, Shuppet. A Lum Berry provides Bagon with a free setup opportunity against status users. The most notable instance of this is against Lileep where you can reliably use Dragon Dance twice at the cost of taking a Toxic. It'd be better if you talk about how you can avoid Toxic, i.e. you get one Dragon Dance with no status.

Bagon excels on offense and balance teams that aim to take advantage of Elekid that lack Ice Punch. It can withstand one Thunderbolt when healthy and outspeed and OHKO it after one Dragon Dance boost. Wallbreakers like Pidgeotto and Aipom appreciate this immensely as Elekid outspeeds them and threatens them with Thunderbolt. Secondary sweepers such as Masquerain, Croconaw, Growlithe, and Butterfree all benefit from Elekid's removal as well. These sweepers can also act as mid-game breakers if Bagon is more poised for a successful late-game. Butterfree is worth mentioning as its access to Sleep Powder creates more opportunities for Bagon to set up. Bagon can be completely walled by Koffing so special attackers that threaten it such Chinchou, Croconaw, and Elekid pair well with Bagon. Elekid is worth mentioning as it can offensively check Aipom so Bagon doesn't need to rely on a boost.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bagon has no other viable options that wouldn't take away from its only set.

OOs can also talk about options that may seem good but are ultimately unviable. Mention Facade, Dragon STAB, and Fighting-type coverage.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Koffing**: Koffing is 3HKOed by Double-Edge at +1 making it stronger than Hydro Pump. The wording here is off, just state that Bagon can't 2HKO Koffing at +1. This allows Koffing to reliably switch into Bagon and 2HKO in return with Sludge Bomb.

**Shuppet**: Shuppet can easily withstand a Hydro Pump and cripple it with its status options or 2HKO with Shadow Ball. Shuppet must be weary of Hidden Power Ghost as it OHKOes even without an Attack boost.

**Dustox**: Dustox can withstand one Double-Edge at +1 from Bagon and can use Whirlwind to phase it out.

**Faster attackers**: Bagon is quite frail and is easily threatened by faster attackers who have moves it doesn't resist such as Aipom, Chinchou, and Delibird. These Pokemon make setup opportunities hard to find.

[SET CREDITS]
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[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Double-Edge
move 3: Brick Break
move 4: Hydro Pump / Hidden Power Ghost
item: Lum Berry
ability: Rock Head
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
After just one Dragon Dance, Bagon outspeeds the entirety of the unboosted metagame bar Voltorb. This, (AC) coupled with its already respectable base Attack and its rare typing, (AC) cement cements Bagon as an extremely effective mid-game (AH) wallbreaker and sweeper. Double-Edge is Bagon's strongest physical option, (AC) allowing it to threaten common special attackers like Elekid, Staryu, and Chinchou after a Dragon Dance boost. Additionally, Double-Edge hits a majority of the metagame for neutral damage. Bagon is also able to negate the recoil damage from Double-Edge (AH) thanks to Rock Head. Brick Break primarily targets Normal- and Steel-types like Aipom, Delcatty, and Magnemite, (AC) but it also 2HKOes physically defensive Lileep at +2. Hydro Pump threatens Rock- and Ground-types like Rhyhorn and Cubone. Alternatively, Bagon can use Hidden Power Ghost to avoid being walled by the tier's only Ghost-type, Shuppet. A Lum Berry provides Bagon with a free setup opportunity against status users. The most notable instance of this is against Elekid who that may try and to use Toxic or Thunder Wave to reduce your Bagon's chances of sweeping.

Bagon excels on offense and balance teams that aim to take advantage of Elekid that lack Ice Punch. It can withstand one Thunderbolt when healthy and can outspeed and OHKO it after one Dragon Dance boost. Wallbreakers like Pidgeotto and Aipom appreciate this immensely, (AC) as Elekid outspeeds them and threatens them with Thunderbolt. Secondary sweepers such as Masquerain, Croconaw, Growlithe, and Butterfree all benefit from Elekid's removal as well. These sweepers can also act as mid-game breakers if Bagon is more poised for a successful late-game. Butterfree is worth mentioning, (AC) as its access to Sleep Powder creates more opportunities for Bagon to set up. Bagon can be completely walled by Koffing, (AC) so special attackers that threaten it such as Chinchou, Croconaw, and Elekid pair well with Bagon. Elekid is worth mentioning, (AC) as it can offensively check Aipom so Bagon doesn't need to rely on a boost. (Doesn't rely on a boost for what?)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Bagon has a few other options due to its movepool (RS), but unfortunately, (AC) it can't make proper use of them because of its stats or ability. Using Dragon Claw may seem like a good option,; (RC, ASC) however, with 40 base 40 Special Attack, running a STAB-boosted Dragon-type STAB move is pointless. Facade may also seem like a worthwhile option, but Bagon lacks Guts, so it limits poison is the only acceptable status to only poison.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Koffing**: Bagon is unable to 2HKO Koffing with Double-Edge at +1. This allows Koffing to reliably switch into Bagon and 2HKO in return with Sludge Bomb.

**Shuppet**: Shuppet can easily withstand a Hydro Pump and cripple it Bagon with its status options or 2HKO with Shadow Ball. Shuppet must be weary wary of Hidden Power Ghost, (AC) as it OHKOes even without an Attack boost.

**Dustox**: Dustox can withstand one Double-Edge at +1 from Bagon and can use Whirlwind to phase it out.

**Faster attackers Attackers**: Bagon is quite frail and is easily threatened by faster attackers who that have moves it doesn't resist such as Aipom, Chinchou, and Delibird. These Pokemon make setup opportunities hard to find.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bp.272450/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/beatsblack.479897/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/gangsta-spongebob.535530/
Grammar checked by:
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