Gen 3 ADV Sub + CM Spoink [DONE]

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[SET]
name: Substitute + Calm Mind
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power [Grass]
item: Leftovers
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink operates as a sweeper or late-game cleaner with its solid bulk, Special Attack, and offensive typing that lacks resistances and beats many great special walls. Substitute lets Spoink avoid status conditions from the likes of Dustox and helps it get a safe Calm Mind against Pokemon it immediately threatens out like Snorunt, Koffing, and Cyndaquil. Due to its great special bulk, it can still continue to set up on special attackers like Elekid. Psychic 3HKOes Grimer and Dustox unboosted, as well as 2HKOing Elekid and Growlithe. After a Calm Mind, bulky Pokemon like Castform and Lileep have a harder time switching in and handling Spoink safely. Hidden Power Grass OHKOes Rhyhorn, which would otherwise be able to survive a Psychic and obliterate Spoink with Megahorn. Investing in HP over Special Attack helps Spoink function better as a sweeper, since it can set up with Calm Mind and Substitute on special attackers with better ease.

Spoink does best on offensive or balance teams looking for a sweeper. It relies on physical attackers like Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Rhyhorn to remove the likes of Delcatty, which otherwise thwarts any attempts at a sweep. With its abysmal Defense, Rhyhorn, alongside other Pokemon that resist Normal like Lileep and Nosepass, make great partners to help take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto, which OHKO Spoink with their STAB attacks. Spikes from Snorunt and Pineco really help Spoink break through Dustox and Grimer, turning them into a 2HKO instead of a 3HKO. Pokemon that bait in Growlithe and Cyndaquil like Sunflora and Magnemite pair well with Spoink, since it can set up on them or force them out. Spoink can help take special hits for physical walls like Rhyhorn and Lileep in a pinch, but it really needs all the health it can get to start performing a sweep and thus should be preserved. Paralysis spreaders such as Chinchou and Nosepass are also appreciated to give Spoink an easier time setting up on different targets like Butterfree and opposing Chinchou. Spoink taking any sort of status takes away its sweeping ability, so absorbers like Grimer and Staryu make great partners.

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[SET]
name: Sub + CM Spoink
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power Grass
item: Leftovers
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink operates as a sweeper or lategame cleaner with its solid bulk, Special Attack and offensive typing that beats many great special walls and lacks resistances in the tier. Substitute is great for avoiding status conditions from the likes of Dustox and helps it get a safe Calm Mind after it uses Substitute against Pokemon it immediately threatens out like Snorunt, Koffing and Cyndaquil. Psychic is Spoinks strongest STAB-boosted move, able to 3HKO Grimer and Dustox, as well as 2HKO Elekid and Growlithe, without any investment. Hidden Power Grass OHKO's Rhyhorn, who would otherwise be able to live a Psychic and obliterate Spoink with Megahorn. Investing in HP over Special Attack helps Spoink function better as a cleaner/sweeper since it can setup Calm Mind and Substitute on special attackers with better ease.

Go into a little more detail on Psychic in a second sentence about how at +1 a ton of pokemon don't want to switch into it Like bulky Castform.


Spoink does best on offensive or balance teams looking for a sweeper/cleaner. It relies on physical attackers like Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Rhyhorn to remove the likes of Delcatty, who it otherwise thwarts any attempts at a sweep. With its abysmal physical defense, Rhyhorn, alongside other Normal resists like Lileep and Nosepass, make great partners to help take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto who OHKO Spoink with their STAB attacks. Spikes from Snorunt and Pineco really help Spoink break through Dustox and Grimer, turning them into a 2HKO instead of a 3HKO. Pokemon that bait in Growlithe and Cyndaquil like Sunfora and Magnemite since Spoink can setup on them or force them out pair well with it. In turn, these same Fire weak Pokemon appreciate Spoink for being able to switch into them with relative ease. It can help take hits special hits for physical walls like Rhyhorn and Lileep in a pinch, but it really needs all the health it can get to start performing a sweep. Paralysis spreaders such as Chinchou and Nosepass are also appreciated to give Spoink an easier time setting up on different targets.

Mention Status absorbers or Pokemon who don't mind being statused as Status pretty much kills Spoinks ability to sweep properly.
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[SET]
name: Sub + CM Spoink
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power [Grass]
item: Leftovers
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink operates as a sweeper or late-game Add hyphen cleaner with its solid bulk, Special Attack, Add Comma and offensive typing that beats many great special walls and lacks resistances in the tier. Substitute is great for avoiding lets Spoink avoid it's better to be more direct here status conditions from the likes of Dustox and helps it get a safe Calm Mind after it uses Substitute against Pokemon it immediately threatens out like Snorunt, Koffing, Add Comma and Cyndaquil. Psychic is Spoinks Spoink's strongest STAB-boosted move, able to 3HKO Grimer and Dustox unboosted, as well as 2HKO Elekid and Growlithe, without any investment. After a Calm Mind, bulky Pokemon like Castform and and Lileep have a harder time switching in and handling it safely. Mention that Spoink's defensive profile lets it set up on many foes Hidden Power Grass OHKO's OHKOes Rhyhorn, who which would otherwise be able to live a Psychic and obliterate Spoink with Megahorn. Investing in HP over Special Attack helps Spoink function better as a cleaner/sweeper since it can setup Calm Mind and Substitute on special attackers with better ease.

Spoink does best on offensive or balance teams looking for a sweeper/cleaner. It relies on physical attackers like Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Rhyhorn to remove the likes of Delcatty, who which it otherwise thwarts any attempts at a sweep. With its abysmal physical defense, Rhyhorn, alongside other Pokemon that resist Normal resists like Lileep and Nosepass, make great partners to help take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto, who which OHKO Spoink with their STAB attacks. Spikes from Snorunt and Pineco really help Spoink break through Dustox and Grimer, turning them into a 2HKO instead of a 3HKO. Pokemon that bait in Growlithe and Cyndaquil like Sunfora and Magnemite pair well with it since Spoink can setup on them or force them out pair well with it. In turn, these same Fire weak Pokemon appreciate Spoink for being able to switch into them with relative ease. You basically say this in the last sentence It Spoink can help take hits special hits for physical walls like Rhyhorn and Lileep in a pinch, but it really needs all the health it can get to start performing a sweep. Clarify that this should be avoided if possible Paralysis spreaders such as Chinchou and Nosepass are also appreciated to give Spoink an easier time setting up on different targets. Give examples Spoink taking any sort of status takes away its sweeping ability, so absorbers like Grimer and Staryu make great partners.

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[SET]
name: Sub + CM Spoink
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power [Grass]
item: Leftovers
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink operates as a sweeper or late-game cleaner with its solid bulk, Special Attack, and offensive typing that lacks resistances and beats many great special walls and lacks resistances in the tier ("lacks resistances" isn't rly clear). Substitute lets Spoink avoid status conditions from the likes of Dustox and helps it get a safe Calm Mind after it uses Substitute against Pokemon it immediately threatens out like Snorunt, Koffing, and Cyndaquil. Due to its great special bulk, it can still continue to setup set up on special attackers like Elekid. Psychic is Spoink's strongest STAB-boosted move, able to 3HKOs Grimer and Dustox unboosted, as well as 2HKOs Elekid and Growlithe, without any investment (this isn't exactly clear to me, does "without any investment" mean uninvested elekid & growlithe?). After a Calm Mind, bulky Pokemon like Castform and Lileep have a harder time switching in and handling it safely. Hidden Power Grass OHKOes Rhyhorn, which would otherwise be able to live a Psychic and obliterate Spoink with Megahorn. Investing in HP over Special Attack helps Spoink function better as a sweeper, (AC) since it can setup set up with Calm Mind and Substitute on special attackers with better ease.

Spoink does best on offensive or balance teams looking for a sweeper. It relies on physical attackers like Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Rhyhorn to remove the likes of Delcatty, which it otherwise thwarts any attempts at a sweep. With its abysmal physical defense Defense, Rhyhorn, alongside other Pokemon that resist Normal-type moves like Lileep and Nosepass, make great partners to help take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto, (AC) which OHKO Spoink with their STAB attacks moves. Spikes from Snorunt and Pineco really help Spoink break through Dustox and Grimer, turning them into a 2HKO instead of a 3HKO. Pokemon that bait in Growlithe and Cyndaquil like Sunfora Sunflora and Magnemite pair well with it, (AC) since Spoink can setup set up on them or force them out. Spoink can help take hits special hits for physical walls like Rhyhorn and Lileep in a pinch, but it really needs all the health it can get to start performing a sweep and thus should be avoided preserved. Paralysis spreaders such as Chinchou and Nosepass are also appreciated to give Spoink an easier time setting up on different targets like Butterfree and opposing Chinchou. Spoink taking any sort of status takes away its sweeping ability, so absorbers like Grimer and Staryu make great partners.

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[SET]
name: Sub + CM Spoink Substitute + Calm Mind
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power [Grass]
item: Leftovers
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Spoink operates as a sweeper or late-game cleaner with its solid bulk, Special Attack, and offensive typing that lacks resistances and beats many great special walls and lacks resistances in the tier ("lacks resistances" isn't rly clear) (it's not clear if you mean 'the tier lacks Psychic-resistant Pokemon' or 'Spoink itself lacks resistances' - idt you mean the latter because that's more of a negative point than a positive one). Substitute lets Spoink avoid status conditions from the likes of Dustox and helps it get a safe Calm Mind after it uses Substitute against Pokemon it immediately threatens out like Snorunt, Koffing, and Cyndaquil. Due to its great special bulk, it can still continue to setup set up on special attackers like Elekid. Psychic is Spoink's strongest STAB-boosted move, able to 3HKO 3HKOes Grimer and Dustox unboosted, as well as 2HKO 2HKOing Elekid and Growlithe, without any investment (this isn't exactly clear to me, does "without any investment" mean uninvested elekid & growlithe?) (i think it means with no special attack investment, but you don't need to say 'without investment' bc the evs listed doesn't have investment so no need to clarify. if it means something else, rephrase so it's clearer what you mean). After a Calm Mind, bulky Pokemon like Castform and Lileep have a harder time switching in and handling it Spoink safely. Hidden Power Grass OHKOes Rhyhorn, which would otherwise be able to live survive a Psychic and obliterate Spoink with Megahorn. Investing in HP over Special Attack helps Spoink function better as a sweeper, (AC) since it can setup set up with Calm Mind and Substitute on special attackers with better ease.

Spoink does best on offensive or balance teams looking for a sweeper. It relies on physical attackers like Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Rhyhorn to remove the likes of Delcatty, which it otherwise thwarts any attempts at a sweep. With its abysmal physical defense Defense, Rhyhorn, alongside other Pokemon that resist Normal like Lileep and Nosepass, make great partners to help take hits from Aipom and Pidgeotto, (AC) which OHKO Spoink with their STAB attacks. Spikes from Snorunt and Pineco really help Spoink break through Dustox and Grimer, turning them into a 2HKO instead of a 3HKO. Pokemon that bait in Growlithe and Cyndaquil like Sunfora Sunflora and Magnemite pair well with it Spoink, (AC) since Spoink it can setup set up on them or force them out. Spoink can help take hits special hits for physical walls like Rhyhorn and Lileep in a pinch, but it really needs all the health it can get to start performing a sweep and thus should be avoided preserved. Paralysis spreaders such as Chinchou and Nosepass are also appreciated to give Spoink an easier time setting up on different targets like Butterfree and opposing Chinchou. Spoink taking any sort of status takes away its sweeping ability, so absorbers like Grimer and Staryu make great partners.

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