I don't really understand why people are still trying to think of good coverage moves. Gunk Shot/EQ/Sucker Punch are not only some of the highest BP moves that Arbok gets, but are only resisted by Skarmory. And they give him priority. I think thats the best that can be achieved.
Actually, if you read the thread you would see that Glare etc, have been discussed, with the general consensus being that yeah, its a nice boost, but doesn't really fit with the set most people are discussing, which is a Coil-based set. Until people get sick of discussing that there's going to be limited discussion about it. Also, most people are capable of finding out the new additions Arbok has gotten without relying on the OP.This thread is in major need of an edit to follow the standard set by good one-Pokémon-centered threads. List Arbok's base stats, define the new moves it has and show any changes to existing moves that benefit Arbok like Glare. Also, Earthquake is Earthquake, not EarthQuake, and stop giving all of those sub-par sets horrible names.
1. Fixed the Earthquake misspellsThis thread is in major need of an edit to follow the standard set by good one-Pokémon-centered threads. List Arbok's base stats, define the new moves it has and show any changes to existing moves that benefit Arbok like Glare. Also, Earthquake is Earthquake, not EarthQuake, and stop giving all of those sub-par sets horrible names.
Please get rid of them.1. Fixed the Earthquake misspells
2. Not going to get rid of my "horrible names"
3. The set are not sub-par
4. I used glare in a set, it doesn't work with the others
5. Have a nice day ^^
IMO, Jalorda might be better at this, since he's fast enough to phaze out other phazers first, as well as being bulkier than Arbok. Arbok's Gunk Shot is a big step up from Jalorda's Leaf Blade though... so maybe it's still worth a shot in a tankier role.I'm having fun making an NU/UU sorta team. (I know there are no tiers really except that silly % that puts Lati@s in UU....) and I like this set
252 HP/252 Deff/ 4 HP or SpDef (ur call)
Impish nature w/ Black Sludge
Coil
Dragon Tail
Glare
Gunkshot
Coil to raise power/accuracy of both the non 100% accurate moves. Gunk is for stab (though this can be replaced for coverage) and DragonTail phaze out stuff and sread glare through the enemy team. Though toxic could work as well if you would rather spread poison.
Pokemon is serious business!!!!Please fix up the thread. I want to be able to look up sets for Arbok without having ":3", "xD" and ";_;" everywhere. It looks unprofessional and just plain bad.
Because sucker punch has nothing to do with punchHow does Arbok even get sucker punch i has no limbs at all... well besides its whole body
THIIIISSSSS. This multiplied by 10.Please fix up the thread. I want to be able to look up sets for Arbok without having ":3", "xD" and ";_;" everywhere. It looks unprofessional and just plain bad.
And yeah, try to think up better names for the sets, I'd much rather see something like "Rest+Shed Skin Abuse" rather than "Do Not Disturb ;3".
Why use Chesto AND Shed Skin? I would use Intimidate + Coil, Rest and Chesto, or Shed Skin + Coil, Rest and Black Sludge. Using both is entirely pointless.Like everyones said, his best option is to use coil in combination with gunk shot. So obviously, he's going to need to set up and have higher special defence since he cant boost that. He can get excellent neutral coverage from gunkshot and earthquake, but also gunkshot and aquatail (from 4th gen). Of those two combinations aqua tail seems better since steel types are less of a threat to arbok than ground types with super effective STABs; but either can work. The last slot is pretty much going to decide what kind of Arbok yoru playing. Sucker punch is the more offencive choice becuase it improves coverage and offers a counter to psychic types. Rest lets you recover from damage taken setting up coils and works great with shed skin. As for ability they will probably have a large impact on how you get Arbok in and how he sets up. Intimidate woudl allow you to switch him in without much damage on physical attacks he resists whcih will likley give you one free coil to set up. While shed skin should be used if your running rest to get early wake ups. As for held items, I dont think black sludge is good for restign sets since youll be recovering most of you HP from rest anyway. I think a Chesto berry would be better if yoru running rest becuase you could bring arbok in on a free switch (ideally on something he resists) set up a coil (or two if they switch out) rest of the damage and either immediatly begin attacking or set up more coils and wall if they are physical. Based on this, you could run the following set
Arbok
Nature: Careful; EVs 252HP 252 S.Def 4Spd/Att
Ability: Shed Skin
Item: Chesto Berry
Moves:
Rest
Coil
Gunkshot
Earthquake/Aqua Tail
The choice fo speed or attack for the last 4EVs can be based on outspeeding other base 80 pokemon like mammoswine that might be able to two hit KO a coiled Arbok with earthquake but might not survive two hits from said arbok. It could also go towards attack since the small increase in attack would be compounded with more coils.
The point is to get an imediate and guaranteed wake up rather than leaving it to chance, especially if you havent had enough time to fully set up. It is an option to use black sludge, but it has also dawned on me that the best option is actually to use an air balloon to avoid super effective ground damage all together. Basically theres a few options but Chesto isnt totally redundant given that shed skin doesnt always work.Why use Chesto AND Shed Skin? I would use Intimidate + Coil, Rest and Chesto, or Shed Skin + Coil, Rest and Black Sludge. Using both is entirely pointless.
no but shed skin is redundant given that chesto always worksThe point is to get an imediate and guaranteed wake up rather than leaving it to chance, especially if you havent had enough time to fully set up. It is an option to use black sludge, but it has also dawned on me that the best option is actually to use an air balloon to avoid super effective ground damage all together. Basically theres a few options but Chesto isnt totally redundant given that shed skin doesnt always work.