Why isn't Marowak on the Viability Rankings? It can wreck teams apart without the need for support!
Thick Club is banned. It's not that impressive without it.Why isn't Marowak on the Viability Rankings? It can wreck teams apart without the need for support!
I would run physical ninjask; it has access to swords dance to boost, which makes it much more frightening than it is at +0. Also scolipede is probably just better since it doesn't have that awful typing.So you think that those Pee Dons and Arceuses are enuf? You need some real PU mons! As everyones stats become 100/100/100/100/100/100, no need to worry bout them being not bulkeh!
Dedenne @ Petaya Berry
Ability: Cheek Pouch
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Recycle
- Thunderbolt
- Signal Beam
- Parabolic Charge\Nuzzle
The recycle tho. You can also replace Petaya with Sitrus.
Chatot @ Focus Sash
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Boomburst
- Heat Wave
-ChatterFILLER
Huh. Chatter is banned.Now wut? Well, use nasty plot and start sweeping if there be no talonflame of roxx.
Ninjask @ Leftovers
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Protect
- Giga Drain
- Shadow Ball
It has a decent movepool, and...well, Speed Boost. You can even run a physical ninjask, because it has access to Swords Dance.
Ditto @ Leftovers/Choice Scarf
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD
Bold Nature
- Transform
Well... Now Ditto has 100 base HP. When the Opposing Pokemon tries to set up, switch this guy in.
Thats it for now. Ill post more later.
Actually i agree with you over using Scolipede, and you can even use Blaziken.I would run physical ninjask; it has access to swords dance to boost, which makes it much more frightening than it is at +0. Also scolipede is probably just better since it doesn't have that awful typing.
Some Speed-related ideas:What do people think is the ideal way to deal with Speed
Well, Spinda does learn Shadow Ball...Spinda @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Superpower
- Double-Edge
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Spinda for B- rank: Better typing and move set than Malamar. Too bad this rest talk set gets walled by ghost type.
Oml, thank you so much for this! I've been meaning to get around to this but I kept procrastinating on it, you just saved me a ton of work! I'll edit this into the OPPrettyfied the VR
S Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the Averagemons metagame. These Pokemon are able to perform a variety of roles very effectively, or can just do one extremely well. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. Pokemon in this rank have very few flaws that are patched up by numerous positive traits. These Pokemon define the metagame.
Clefable
/Nidoking/Nidoqueen
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A Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are fantastic in the Averagemons metagame, and can sweep, support, or wall significant portions of the metagame. These Pokemon require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be compensated for when compared to their positive traits. These Pokemon exert a strong presence in the metagame.
A+ Rank:
Chatot
Kecleon
Sableye-Mega
Skrelp
Swoobat
Talonflame
A Rank:
Crawdaunt
Dragalge
Exploud
/Foongus/Amoonguss
Gliscor
Greninja
Serperior
Wooper
A- Rank:
Corsola
Klefki
Kyogre
Salamence-Mega
Xerneas
/Zigzagoon/Linoone
B Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the Averagemons metagame. These Pokemon have more notable flaws than those above them that affect how they function in the tier. Their positive traits still outshine their negatives, but they require a bit more team support to bring out their full potential. These Pokemon exert an above average presence in the metagame.
B+ Rank:
Arceus-Normal
Arceus-Rock
Blaziken
Gardevoir
Gyarados-Mega
Jirachi
Mawile
Rayquaza-Mega
Skarmory
Slowking
/Swirlix/Slurpuff
Tauros
Victini
B Rank:
Alomomomomomomomola
Altaria-Mega
Audino
Breloom
Excadrill
Gorebyss
Ho-oh
Huntail
Lucario-Mega
Masquerain
Ninetales
/Pawniard/Bisharp
Porygon-Z
Primal Kyogre
Solrock
Staryu
Thundurus
Tornadus-Therian
Yveltal
B- Rank:
Aerodactyl
Banette-Mega
Darkrai
Ditto
Furfrou
Genesect
Gyarados
Heatran
/Hippopotas/Hippowdon
Kabutops
Kingdra
Malamar
Manaphy
Mew
Mienshao
Numel
Shaymin-Sky
Shuckle
Surskit
Sylveon
Volbeat
C Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are mediocre in the Averagemons metagame, but have just as many notable flaws that prevent them from being effective. Pokemon in the C tier often require significant support to be effective. Pokemon from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used Pokemon. These Pokemon exert a below average presence in the metagame.
C+ Rank:
Arceus-Ghost
Arceus-Steel
Aurorus
Barbaracle
Charizard-Mega (X)
Deoxys
Ferrothorn
Hitmonlee
Landorus-Therian
Latias
Latios
Ludicolo
Palkia
Reuniclus
Salamence
Scizor
Sigilyph
Swellow
Tangrowth
Togekiss
Vivillon
/Cottonee/Whimsicott
C Rank:
Aerodactyl-Mega
Alakazam
Arcanine
Arceus-Fairy
/Bronzor/Bronzong
/Carvahna/Sharpedo
Cloyster
Crustle
Diancie-Mega
Dragonite
Gardevoir-Mega
Giratina-Origin
Groudon
Hydreigon
Murkrow
Politoed
Qwilfish
Sawsbuck
Staraptor
Trevenant
Tyrantrum
Ursaring
Victreebel
Zangoose
C- Rank:
Azumarill
Basculin
Bibarel
Conkeldurr
Eelektross
Espeon
Farfetch'd
Flygon
Gengar
Honchkrow
/Frillish/Jellicent
Larvitar
Lopunny-Mega
Lugia
Tyranitar
Xatu
D Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are highly mediocre in the Averagemons metagame, but are viable enough to justify their use on select teams. These Pokemon are only capable of doing their specific task and fail at doing anything more than that. Pokemon from this rank have multiple crippling flaws that prevent them from being successful a majority of the time, and are often severely outclassed because of it. These Pokemon exert a poor presence in the metagame.
Aegislash
Beedrill-Mega
Chansey
Charizard-Mega-Y
Dialga
Diancie
Dustox
Eevee
Garchomp
Klinklang
Landorus-Incarnate
Lilligant
//Magnemite/Magneton/Magnezone
Mewtwo
Ninjask
Rayquaza
/Roselia/Roserade
Rotom-Wash
Tropius
Zekrom
Mental Herb blocks Prankster Encore, while Safety Goggles helps with Sand/Hail damage.I'm thinking of a decent set to abuse Final Gambit in this meta, but don't know what item
Ninjask @ ???
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Final Gambit
- Protect
Suicide mon that kills everything, Protect to outspeed everything that isn't boosted.
Thanks TI! With 1 HP Shedinja shouldn't be an issue. In Averagemons it suffers from the same crippling issue as it does in standard tiers, its horrific weakness to hazards and any form of passive damage. Even though its greater speed and attack allow it to more effectively take advantage of the free turns it creates than in standard tiers, I can't see it being too much of a threat.I have unbanned Shedinja. PS! had it implemented incorrectly; it always has 1 HP no matter what its base HP is.
(If it's broken at 1 HP, MAMP can reban, but I doubt it)
famous last words before you get rekt by a sab + shed stall teamThanks TI! With 1 HP Shedinja shouldn't be an issue. In Averagemons it suffers from the same crippling issue as it does in standard tiers, its horrific weakness to hazards and any form of passive damage. Even though its greater speed and attack allow it to more effectively take advantage of the free turns it creates than in standard tiers, I can't see it being too much of a threat.
Wouldn't that be triple priority options? Fake out, Scuker Punch, Shadow Sneak.Some things that look interesting in Averagemons now thanks to ORAS move tutors/ORAS in general/Still may be good.
Pangoro:
Has nice utility in Parting shot, semi-reliable recovery with drain punch, taunt to mess with stall, bulk up if you like boosting, knock off, and a decent movepool with things like the elemental punches and GUNK SHOT.
Kecleon:
dual priority recovery options, nasty plot, PROTEAN, a wide movepool, stealth rocks, knock off, and more.
Yveltal has knock off and some other support options, along with a free life orb boost to dark type attacks and has U-turn.
Blaziken looks pretty stronk. Speed boost, swords dance, baton pass, an actual movepool. What could possibly go wrong?
Deoxys still exists,still has it's unholy movepool and has cosmic power for extra annoyingness. It does have it's crummy typing though.
Too bad Togekiss is fairy type, i would have otherwise use hustle-extremespeed on it for fun.
If you read the OP it says that all of the signature items are bannedI can imagine pokemon with items specific to them might do well here