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Couple of comments on this, starting with some typing-based questions. What would be the course of action if two pokemon with alternating typings were used? My example is Heatran and Rotom-H: would they both be pure fire-type?its ya boi, back at it again with another metagame idea
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SwapForce
*name inspired by Skylanders; no actually the whole metagame is inspired by it lol
Metagame Premise:
Pokemon in the 1st slot of a party will share its HP/Atk/Def, and primary typing with the 2nd slot, and vice versa, the 2nd slot will share its SpA/SpD/Spe, and it's secondary typing with the 1st slot. 3rd/4th and 5th/6th have the same relationship.
If the even numbered slots are monotype, they do not give a type to the odd numbered slots. (Refer to
-OU Based + Standard OU Clauses
-Tera Clause (no Terastelizing)
For example, let's take two Pokemon: Ursaluna and Diancie.
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Ursaluna would pass Ground type, HP-130, Atk-140, and Def-105 to Diancie.
Diancie would pass Fairy type, SpA-100, SpD-150, and Spe-50 to Ursaluna.
The new Pokemon (plural) would look like this:
Ursaluna and Diancie both have Ground/Fairy type, and a spread of 130/140/105/100/150/50 - BST 675
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They both keep their original abilities, meaning Guts could be abused on Ursaluna while Clear Body can help Diancie ignore Intimidate drops.
They both keep their original movesets, meaning Headlong Rush and Play Rough are now STAB on Ursaluna, and Diancie can abuse a more respectable 140 Base Atk stat for its signature Diamond Storm.
Here's another two Pokemon: Cloyster and Florges.
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The new Pokemon (plural) would look like this:
Cloyster and Florges would both have a stat spread of 50/95/180/112/154/75 - BST 666
Cloyster would stay a Water/Ice type, since Florges is monotype and cannot pass a type that it doesn't have.
Florges, however, would become a Water type.
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Finally, let's look at Orthoworm and Iron Moth.
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The new Pokemon (plural) would look like this:
Ursaluna and Diancie both have Steel/Poison type, and a spread of 70/85/145/140/110/110 - BST 660
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Pokemon with solid HP/Atk/Def can get better stats through other mons, and likewise pass solid stats to them as well. Great Tusk and Ursaring are great examples of this. Both pass Ground type, and solid HP/Atk/Def, or for another example, Kingambit and Ting Lu.
On the other side of the spectrum, SpA/SpD/Spe specialized Pokemon would appreciate the boosts Pokemon like previously stated give. Iron Moth, Hatterene, even mons like Jolteon could see usage.
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Potential Bans and Threats:
Both Pokémon are simply just threats in my eyes, but if there's anything that seems problematic with this metagame, feedback is appreciated.
The ultimate wall, but without that crippling 65 SpDef stat. You could use Clodsire to pass a commendable 100 SpDef stat onto it, as well as a Ground type if the team is built with Dondozo before Clodsire (or any other SpDef passers for that matter.).
The sheer power of Hoopa-Unbound and it's solid stat spread can not only be passed to other mons, but its own weakness in its Defense stat can be cut out with this metagame.
Q&A-
Q - What happens if I lose a Pokemon? Does my Pokemon lose the stats they were swapped?
A- Stats are determined before the game begins, so if you lose your 6th slot Pokemon, you won't lose the stats they passed to the 5th slot, for example.
Q - What happens if I have an Odd-numbered/incomplete team?
A- The Pokemon that can't swap with the even slot would not change.
Questions for the Community:
- What are your thoughts on type swapping? I thought it'd be fun to introduce more than just BST swapping, so type swapping was a last minute inclusion.
- What other Pokémon could you see becoming a threat that I could have missed?
I read at the bottom that you kind of arbitrarily introduced type swaps. I'm indifferent against the change, just now this format clashes a bit with other type-changing metas like Bonus Type or Camomons as well now. Is there a reasoning besides adding another "thing" to be swapped around? Keep in mind this was already occupying a similar niche to stat-changing metas like GG or Flipped (not the exact niche obviously, but from experience, if there's too many "stat changing metas" usually most are just cast by the wayside in favor of whichever one has the most support from the beginning).
My worry with something like this is it tries to be a bit too "flashy" and ends up competing with a wider spectrum of metas than originally expected. In the past (like gens 5 and 6) this was super common practice to just let something like this through, where it would get an initial wave of interest riding on "look at how broken X is!" then fail to gather any attention again. With multiple options for type-changing and stat-changing metas already on the om roster, something that tries to do both (and makes building even more difficult at that) takes a lot of effort to launch and actually keep up.