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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
- Thread starter mingot
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divide by 12, remainder -1 for coin flip. -1 because of going from 5 to 6.
the apps on the poketech. app 6 is the one you double tap. Why 98 instead of 99, not completely sure.
10,944 for my shiny, lol time to reset.
10,944 for my shiny, lol time to reset.
now that we have this shiny stuff down, time to abuse and try to figure out how to abuse to catch good legends.
yeah I'm already working on it. So far i've gathered some info on how the normal seed is consumed:
-1 step you take = 1 seed consumed
-each 128 steps a further seed is consumed
-each time you turn around a seed is consumed
-if you do a lateral step 2 seeds are consumed (one for stepping and one for turning)
-wild encounter = 2 seed consumed
-sweet scent in the grass = 1 seed consumed
-sweet scent in the water,caves = 2 seed consumed
-also whenever any character (not just you!!!) on the screen turns and starts walking a seed is consumed
- something is said about opening the pokedex...but I really didn't understand
-when you go into battle a lot of seeds are consumed but after the battle the previous seed is restored. (that's great!)
EDIT : I haven't personally tested these above
-1 step you take = 1 seed consumed
-each 128 steps a further seed is consumed
-each time you turn around a seed is consumed
-if you do a lateral step 2 seeds are consumed (one for stepping and one for turning)
-wild encounter = 2 seed consumed
-sweet scent in the grass = 1 seed consumed
-sweet scent in the water,caves = 2 seed consumed
-also whenever any character (not just you!!!) on the screen turns and starts walking a seed is consumed
- something is said about opening the pokedex...but I really didn't understand
-when you go into battle a lot of seeds are consumed but after the battle the previous seed is restored. (that's great!)
EDIT : I haven't personally tested these above
Later on tomorrow after I drive back to my college, I'm going to try and get a good Dialga/Palkia based on those numbers jonny.
There's something else going on here, I did a bit of experimenting with Azelf in which I fished for a pokemon to check its seed, Master Balled it on the first turn, then walked into Azelf's cave and caught Azelf and checked its seed as well to see how many RNG calls took place between these two events. On each trial I got very different results, from around 25 at a low point to a high of 151. There's something else beyond my control calling the RNG, as slight variations in the route/amount of steps I took (tried to take as close to the same path as possible each time) would not cause this much of a difference.
Time in battle does not seem to be a factor, nor does time spent selecting/using poke balls. There are no other NPCs at Lake Valor besides Azelf, who does not move, so that can't be it either.
Time in battle does not seem to be a factor, nor does time spent selecting/using poke balls. There are no other NPCs at Lake Valor besides Azelf, who does not move, so that can't be it either.
This is just a guess, but maybe fishing does something to the RNG. Not sure, just a guess.
Trying to get a shiny scyther with good IVs and keep messing up XD
Oh well, have to try again tomorrow.
Trying to get a shiny scyther with good IVs and keep messing up XD
Oh well, have to try again tomorrow.
The fishing occurred before I caught the pokemon, so it should be irrelevant for determining how many frames take place between the random pokemon and Azelf.
There are no moving characters; it is just an empty island with a cave with Azelf inside.
I tried the same thing Sweet Scenting in Stark Mountain right outside the opening to Heatran's cave (can't catch anything in the cave) and then catching Heatran. Different results each time, and there all I have to do is walk in a straight line.
To find my Platinum Shiny Spreads, do I jut need to input my SID and ID into RNG Reporter, select "Shiny Only", and search under your desired method?
EDIT: Also, I'd love to help out with anything I can. I'm reading up on this entire thread, and I understand the Emerald RNG quite well.
EDIT: Also, I'd love to help out with anything I can. I'm reading up on this entire thread, and I understand the Emerald RNG quite well.
So, I'm testing for shiny eggs. And, for testing reasons, I'm wondering... I know that the Poketech apps (Namely Coin Toss and Friendship checker) advance the RNG's frames by 1 and 2*Party Member amount, respectively.
Does that only apply to eggs? Or Legendaries/Rotom, too? Because I'm thinking of Emerald here, where eggs and Legendaries have the same spreads. Just clarifying before I test this more tomorrow.
Does that only apply to eggs? Or Legendaries/Rotom, too? Because I'm thinking of Emerald here, where eggs and Legendaries have the same spreads. Just clarifying before I test this more tomorrow.
Could you explain why flip coin 3 times?
What software do you use?
And does it matter where you scent/catch a Pokémon?
EDIT: Is someone willing to make a small Tutorail with (if it's possible) pictures, because I don't understand the Japanese program.
Yeah, I need help with the program too. Syberia: they are mode one.
Also, this method will not work for anything but making eggs shiny. The game has two different RNG. The Incubation RNG, which is for eggs, and the Normal RNG which is the legends and everything else. So, what we can do, is call up the seeds to make the egg shiny, then sit there and SR it, even if we move, because only certain things effect the seed for the IRNG. However, walking, talking, being near NPCs, anything like that all progress the Seed of the RNG, so we can't make shinies whenever on those.
I feel bad for the chainers.
Also, this method will not work for anything but making eggs shiny. The game has two different RNG. The Incubation RNG, which is for eggs, and the Normal RNG which is the legends and everything else. So, what we can do, is call up the seeds to make the egg shiny, then sit there and SR it, even if we move, because only certain things effect the seed for the IRNG. However, walking, talking, being near NPCs, anything like that all progress the Seed of the RNG, so we can't make shinies whenever on those.
I feel bad for the chainers.
I'll be working on updating the OP with some instructions on actually doing this in practice today. I will be editing as I go along to see how screenshots, look, etc.
I think what we really need to do right now is try to figure out the method for egg PID generation (the math behind it) so if anyone is up for starting to try to work on this any help would be appreciated. My personal goal is to get this into RNG Reporter to try to lessen the need for the the Japanese software being part of the process.
I think what we really need to do right now is try to figure out the method for egg PID generation (the math behind it) so if anyone is up for starting to try to work on this any help would be appreciated. My personal goal is to get this into RNG Reporter to try to lessen the need for the the Japanese software being part of the process.
I can maybe do a mini guide tonight. Yeah, chainers are screwed. We can get perfect shinies now.