OptiMons [Slate 22: Gen 4] {Voting}

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For a guess, I'd assume the stat boosts would just carry over (+0 / +60 / +0 / -30 / +0 / +70), but that might be broken, so I'm guessing there'll just be no change.
I assume like in Type Optimization there is no change other than movepool additions
These are both correct.
If that was the case, the Mega Beedrill stats would be (for each submission):
75 HP / 180 Atk / 70 Def / 15 SpA / 90 SpD / 195 Spe
80 HP / 180 Atk / 70 Def / 15 SpA / 90 SpD / 195 Spe
65 HP / 210 Atk / 50 Def / 5 SpA / 50 SpD / 220 Spe
Yeah, how about no? These all exceed Deoxys-A physically, and would easily be an Uber (AG in the third case) Pokemon. So, Mega Beedrill will be untouched.
 
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We still need a few more submissions until voting.
Idk blud, OptiMons is a rather slow Pet Mod and is coming off a verrry long break. I gotta work with what you have and hope it eventually gets the hype and attracts everyone. For what its worth, i'll tag a couple known creators and see if they are interested. But if no one else subs by Friday, it would be in the best interest of the Pet mod to move foward and not stagnate and die.

Mygavolt The Reptile Ludicrousity Squawkerz Swagodile lyd AquaticPanic
any of y'all can help with submissions?
 

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Butterfree [Optimized]
Abilities:
Tinted Lens / Effect Spore (Compound Eyes)
Stats: 110 / 50 / 105 / 105 / 120 / 110
Added Moves: Sludge Wave, Spore
Summary of Changes: +50 HP, +5 Atk, +55 Def, +15 Sp. Atk, +40 Sp. Def, +40 Speed

Butterfree's Bug / Flying type was unfortunate. At an attempt to improve it, I made it poison due to various dex entries mentioning it having poisonous dusts. With the new spread, butterfree can be a bulky QD Sweeper. Not much else to say, really




Beedrill [Optimized]
Abilities:
Sniper / Sheer Force (Technician)
Stats: 50 / 120 / 50 / 120 / 50 / 140
Added Moves: Wing Attack, Feint Attack, Sting Storm*
Summary of Changes: -15 HP, +50 Atk, +10 def, +105 Sp. Atk, -30 Sp. Def, +65

*Sting Storm:
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| 200 BP | 100% Acc | 8 PP |
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| Z-move: 180 BP | User faints after use.

Beedrill is now a Glass Cannon sweeper. Simple as that. I believe it may be a bit OP, so if it is, please tell me so I can tune it down



I'll do the other two soon (Side note, I adore Dustox)​
 
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Butterfree [Optimized]
Abilities:
Tinted Lens / Effect Spore (Compound Eyes)
Stats: 110 / 50 / 105 / 105 / 120 / 110
Added Moves: Sludge Wave, Spore
Summary of Changes: +50 HP, +5 Atk, +55 Def, +15 Sp. Atk, +40 Sp. Def, +40 Speed

Butterfree's Bug / Flying type was unfortunate. At an attempt to improve it, I made it poison due to various dex entries mentioning it having poisonous dusts. With the new spread, butterfree can be a bulky QD Sweeper. Not much else to say, really




Beedrill [Optimized]
Abilities:
Sniper / Sheer Force (Technician)
Stats: 50 / 140 / 50 / 140 / 50 / 140
Added Moves: Wing Attack, Feint Attack, Sting Storm*
Summary of Changes: -15 HP, +50 Atk, +10 def, +105 Sp. Atk, -30 Sp. Def, +65

*Sting Storm:View attachment 115846 | 200 BP | 100% Acc | 8 PP | View attachment 115845 | Z-move: 180 BP | User faints after use.

Beedrill is now a Glass Cannon sweeper. Simple as that. I believe it may be a bit OP, so if it is, please tell me so I can tune it down



I'll do the other two soon (Side note, I adore Dustox)​
Beedrill is unnecessarily bused
 


Dustox [Optimized]
Abilities: Poison Point, Effect Spore, Compound Eyes.
Stats: 90/50/95/110/95/110 BST: 550
Added Moves: Hurricane, Taunt, Toxic Spikes, Haze
Summary of Changes: +30 HP, +25 def, +60 spa, +5 spd, +45 spe
I don’t get how a Pokémon that flaps it’s wings so much for battle/meaniness (read dex) isn’t already this fast. And with those wings, how does it not create hurricanes :p? Anywho, I basically made this into a more offensive Pokémon, with 110/110 offenses and a boosted accuracy hurricane, this is sure to do... something. Taunt is given because it could be useful for other roles too, especially since it now has tspikes and haze ig​
 
Alright, I'm gonna close submissions.. Here are the submissions you can vote for:

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Butterfree [Optimized]
Abilities
: Compoundeyes / Magic Guard (HA)
Stats: 75 HP / 45 Atk / 80 Def / 120 SpA / 100 SpD / 100 Spe | BST: 520
Added Moves: Psyshock, Thunderbolt, Magic Powder*
Summary of Changes: +15 HP, +30 Def, +30 SpA, +20 SpD, +30 Spe
*Magic Powder:
| 80 BP | 100% Acc | 10 PP |
| Z-move: 160 BP Shattered Psyche | Lowers the target's SpD by 1 stage

Butterfree's main downfalls were...pretty much everything really. Its highest stat was its base 90 SpA which just isn't offensive enough anymore with the power creep. It lacked bulk, especially on the physical side. Base 70 Spe is a very awkward speed tier, easily outsped by most threatening opponents. Bug/Flying is a horrid defensive typing and underwhelming offensive typing. All it really had going for it was Quiver Dance and Compoundeyes Sleep Powder. This optimized Butterfree has much better stats all around, as well as a better offensive typing that isn't 4x weak to Stealth Rock and a signature move that gives it greater offensive presence. Compoundeyes Sleep Powder still has its niche but Magic Guard allows Butterfree to avoid hazard and status damage, which could otherwise wear it down quickly.


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Beedrill [Optimized]
Abilities
: Intimidate / Skill Link (HA)
Stats: 75 HP / 120 Atk / 70 Def / 45 SpA / 90 SpD / 125 Spe | BST: 520
Added Moves: Stinger Storm*
Summary of Changes: +10 HP, +30 Atk, +30 Def, +10 SpD, +50 Spe

*Stinger Storm:
| 25 BP | 95% Acc | 15 PP |
| Z-move: 140 BP Acid Downpour | Hits 2-5 times, each hit has a 10% chance to poison

Beedrill was even more frail than Butterfree and other Bug-types, leaving it unable to switch in and set up. Base 75 Spe and base 90 Atk were too low to be immediately threatening. Its abilities were also generally useless, relying on having low health or on luck. Optimized Beedrill has much greater offensive presence, with higher attack and speed, useful abilities, and a new signature move. Skill Link allows its STAB moves Pin Missile and Stinger Storm to hit five times each to break through Substitutes, Focus Sashes, and Sturdy. It now can more easily threaten switches to set up with Swords Dance, or it can U-turn quickly to a teammate.


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Beautifly [Optimized]
Abilities
: Tinted Lens / Triage (HA)
Stats: 90 HP / 110 Atk / 80 Def / 70 SpA / 90 SpD / 80 Spe | BST: 520
Added Moves: Dazzling Gleam, Moonblast, Play Rough, Draining Kiss, Leech Life, Beauty Kiss*
Summary of Changes: +30 HP, +40 Atk, +30 Def, -30 SpA, +40 SpD, +15 Spe

*Beauty Kiss:
| 75 BP | 100% Acc | 10 PP |
| Z-move: 140 BP Twinkle Tackle | User recovers 75% of the damage taken by the target, heals the user's status

Beautifly suffered from a combination of poor bulk, low speed, and being outcompeted by other Bug-types that left it practically useless. Optimized Beautifly has much better stats, a useful ability in Triage that goes well with its new signature move, and a partial Fairy typing for better offensive coverage. Triage gives +3 priority to its main STAB moves in Leech Life and Beauty Kiss, which allow it to hit fast and decently hard off its base 110 Atk stat while providing some recovery for better longevity. It has greater bulk and a better typing to help take advantage of this too.


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Dustox [Optimized]
Abilities
: Corrosion / Regenerator (HA)
Stats: 100 HP / 50 Atk / 100 Def / 85 SpA / 120 SpD / 65 Spe | BST: 520
Added Moves: Clear Smog, Toxic Thread, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, Thunder Wave, Toxic Gust*
Summary of Changes: +40 HP, +30 Def, +35 SpA, +30 SpD

*Toxic Gust:
| 80 BP | 100% Acc | 10 PP |
| Z-move: 160 BP Acid Downpour | 50% chance to badly poison targets, can hit and poison Poison-types and Steel-types

Dustox was similarly useless like its evo-cousin Beautifly but was also extremely passive. The optimized Dustox has hugely improved bulk with access to Regenerator so it can be a slow bulky pivot for its team with U-turn. While its special attack is still lacking offensively, it gets Corrosion to spread poison to opposing Poison-types and Steel-types that would otherwise switch in freely, along with Toxic Spikes to further support its team. Its signature move Toxic Gust provides an offensive way to spread badly poisoned status without fearing Taunt, as well as being able to hit Steel-types.​


Dustox [Optimized]
Abilities:
Corrosion / Shield Dust / Triage (HA)
Stats: 100 Hp/40 Atk/90 Def/90 SpA/120 SpD/60 Spe/500 BST
Added Moves: Heat Wave, Toxic Spikes, Knock Off
Summary of Changes: +40 Hp, -10 Atk, +20 Def, +40 SpA, +30 SpD, -5 Spe, +115 BST.
BIG WIP on Move descriptions



Butterfree [Optimized]
Abilities
: Tinted Lens / Magic Guard (HA)
Stats: 75 HP / 45 Atk / 80 Def / 120 SpA / 105 SpD / 100 Spe | BST: 525
Added Moves: Psyshock, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, *Flutter Dust,
Summary of Changes: +15 HP, +30 Def, +30 SpA, +25 SpD, +30 Spe

*Flutter Dust :
| 50 BP | 100% Acc | 10 PP |
| Z-move: 100 BP Savage Spin Out | Lowers the target's SpD, SpA and Spe by 1 stage





Beedrill [Optimized]
Abilities
: Defiant / No Guard (HA)
Stats: 80 HP / 120 Atk / 70 Def / 45 SpA / 90 SpD / 125 Spe | BST: 520
Added Moves: Sucker Punch, Dark Pulse, *Ravage, *Swarm Up
Summary of Changes: +15 HP, +30 Atk, +30 Def, +10 SpD, +50 Spe

*Ravage:
| 140 BP | 75% Acc | 5 PP |
| Z-move: 195 BP Black Hole Eclipse | Lowers Accuracy, Def and SpD by 1 stage

*Swarm Up:
| - | - | 15 PP |
| Z-move: Resets lowered stats | Raises Attack and Speed by one stage. Raises Attack by two stages if HP is under 50%



Beautifly [Optimized]
Abilities
: Competitive / Triage (HA)
Stats: 90 HP / 40 Atk / 90 Def / 130 SpA / 90 SpD / 85 Spe | BST: 525
Added Moves: Dazzling Gleam, Moonblast, Draining Kiss, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, *Beauty Drain
Summary of Changes: +30 HP, -30 Atk, +40 Def, +30 SpA, +40 SpD, +20 Spe

*Beauty Drain:
| 80 BP | 100% Acc | 10 PP |
| Z-move: 160 BP Twinkle Tackle | Heals for 50% of the damage done.




Dustox [Optimized]
Abilities
: Corrosion / Intimidate (HA)
Stats: 100 HP / 40 Atk / 110 Def / 90 SpA / 120 SpD / 65 Spe | BST: 525
Added Moves: Clear Smog, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, Heat Wave, Knock Off, *Toxic Turmoil
Summary of Changes: +40 HP, -10 Atk, +40 Def, +40 SpA, +30 SpD

*Toxic Turmoil:
| - | - | 20 PP |
| Z-move: +1 SpD | Removes 4 PP from last used move. If the opponent is poisoned, the PP reduction is doubled.


Butterfree [Optimized]
Abilities: Illusion | [HA] Compound Eyes
Stats: 60 / 50 / 60 / 125 / 100 / 105 | BST: 500
Added Moves: Focus Blast, Trick, Nasty Plot, Thunderbolt
Summary of Changes: +5 Atk/+10 Def/+35 SpA/+20 SpD/+35 Spe



Beedril [Optimized]
Abilities: Sniper | [HA] Dazzling
Stats: 65 / 150 / 50 / 35 / 50 / 150 | BST: 500
Added Moves: First Impression, Sacred Sword, Leech Life, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch
Summary of Changes: +60 Atk/+10 Def/-10 SpA/-30 SpD/+75 Spe



Beautifly [Optimized]
Abilities: Swarm | [HA] No Guard
Stats: 60 / 70 / 60 / 115 / 95 / 100 | BST: 500
Added Moves: Hurricane, Nature Power, Hypnosis, Draining Kiss, Ice Beam
Summary of Changes: +10 Def/+15 SpA/+45 SpD/+35 Spe



Dustox [Optimized]
Abilities: Shield Dust | [HA] Tinted Lens
Stats: 80 / 50 / 130 / 85 / 90 / 65 | BST: 500
Added Moves: Toxic Spikes, Strength Sap, Clear Smog
Summary of Changes: +20 HP/+60 Def/+35 SpA
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Butterfree [Optimized]
Abilities:
Tinted Lens / Effect Spore (Compound Eyes)
Stats: 110 / 50 / 105 / 105 / 120 / 110
Added Moves: Sludge Wave, Spore
Summary of Changes: +50 HP, +5 Atk, +55 Def, +15 Sp. Atk, +40 Sp. Def, +40 Speed

Butterfree's Bug / Flying type was unfortunate. At an attempt to improve it, I made it poison due to various dex entries mentioning it having poisonous dusts. With the new spread, butterfree can be a bulky QD Sweeper. Not much else to say, really




Beedrill [Optimized]
Abilities:
Sniper / Sheer Force (Technician)
Stats: 50 / 120 / 50 / 120 / 50 / 140
Added Moves: Wing Attack, Feint Attack, Sting Storm*
Summary of Changes: -15 HP, +50 Atk, +10 def, +105 Sp. Atk, -30 Sp. Def, +65

*Sting Storm:
| 200 BP | 100% Acc | 8 PP |
| Z-move: 180 BP | User faints after use.

Beedrill is now a Glass Cannon sweeper. Simple as that. I believe it may be a bit OP, so if it is, please tell me so I can tune it down​


Dustox [Optimized]
Abilities: Poison Point, Effect Spore, Compound Eyes.
Stats: 90/50/95/110/95/110 BST: 550
Added Moves: Hurricane, Taunt, Toxic Spikes, Haze
Summary of Changes: +30 HP, +25 def, +60 spa, +5 spd, +45 spe
I don’t get how a Pokémon that flaps it’s wings so much for battle/meaniness (read dex) isn’t already this fast. And with those wings, how does it not create hurricanes :p? Anywho, I basically made this into a more offensive Pokémon, with 110/110 offenses and a boosted accuracy hurricane, this is sure to do... something. Taunt is given because it could be useful for other roles too, especially since it now has tspikes and haze ig
 
Butterfree: Tuthur1, G-Luke, Origin0
Beedrill: G-Luke, AquaticPanic, Origin0
Beautifly: G-Luke, Origin0, Tuthur1
Dustox: Tuthur1, G-Luke, Yveltal for PU
 

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Butterfree: Tuthur1, G-Luke, Origin0
Beedrill: G-Luke, AquaticPanic, Origin0
Beautifly: G-Luke, Origin0, Tuthur1
Dustox: Tuthur1, G-Luke, Yveltal for PU
 

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Butterfree: G-Luke, Tuthur1, Origin0
Beedrill: AquaticPanic, Tuthur1, Origin0
Beautifly: G-Luke, Tuthur1
Dustox: G-Luke
 

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Butterfree: Origin0, G-Luke, Tuthur1
Beedrill: G-Luke, Origin0, AquaticPanic
Beautifly: Origin0, Tuthur1
Duxtox: Abstain
 
Closing voting phase. The winners are:
Butterfree: G-Luke
Beedrill: Tie between AquaticPanic and G-Luke
Beautifly: G-Luke
Dustox: G-Luke

totally not rigged amirite

Anyway, tiebreaker votes start now!
Tiebreaker vote: AquaticPanic
Reason: We don’t need one single person to win all the Pokémon in one slate.
 

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I didn’t include Point_At_Me’s votes because they were a complete replica of Origin0’s and got me suspicious of alting.
More likely they are new and copied the first set of votes they saw. I do it alot and im a mod.

But what I mean when i say weighed votes are that the order they are arranged gives precedence (1st slot has like 5 points, 2nd slot has 3 and 3rd has 1) Just giving an example, you don't hve to copy it exactly. But you get the gist.
 
I didn’t include Point_At_Me’s votes because they were a complete replica of Origin0’s and got me suspicious of alting.
Copy pasting votes is actually not uncommon, more common for pet mods when there aren’t very many submissions and especially where the votes are not weighted.
 
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