SJCrew
Believer, going on a journey...
Speaking of Weavile, I think a lot of Weavile's viability is closely tied to Tornadus-T and how unequivocally spammable and borderline broken that thing is. I don't care if it misses Hurricane every once in a while; it pressures the shit out of every type of team even with only three of its moves and can beat most of its checks by Knocking Off and pivoting out constantly. It's also an incredible instrument vs. stall because quite frankly, no Chansey is going to stay in and get Knocked Off if they can help it. But then what's taking the Hurricane and forcing it out? Probably only Zapdos. Anything else and it can just Knock Off, U-turn and wait.
By the way, I'm not exaggerating because I'm salty about losing to it. It's been a slow realization over all of the times I've had playing with it, against it, and watching replays of it that there are almost no good answers to that thing. I would definitely challenge the notion that nothing is as good as Clefable in this meta, because Torn-T is becoming dominant and people are breaking out the Weaviles just to fight back.
By the way, I'm not exaggerating because I'm salty about losing to it. It's been a slow realization over all of the times I've had playing with it, against it, and watching replays of it that there are almost no good answers to that thing. I would definitely challenge the notion that nothing is as good as Clefable in this meta, because Torn-T is becoming dominant and people are breaking out the Weaviles just to fight back.