SPOILERS! Pokemon Legends: Arceus *Leak Thread*

[JamieO'Donnell97]

Can't wait to see their heights and weights!

 

[Missingno. Master]

Do we know evolution requirements for any of the new stuff?

 

[G-Luke]

I don't know if anyone noticed this, but tons of moves got nerfed (and some got buffed) .

Grass
Leaf storm-110 BP
Leaf Blade- 85 BP
wood hammer- 100 BP

Water
Liquidation- 80 bp
Hydropump- 100BP

Water buffs
Flip turn- 70 BP

Fire (oof)
Flare blitz- 100 bp
flamethrower- 80 bp
Overheat- 110 BP
Fire Blast 100 BP
Magma Storm- 90 BP

Normal
Double Edge- 90 BP
Hidden Power- 50 BP

Flying
Brave Bird- 100 BP
100- BP 75 ACC

Fighting
Close Combat- 100 BP

Poison
Sludge bomb- 80 BP

Rock
Head Smash- 120 BP

Ground
Earth power- 80 BP
High horsepower 85 BP

Ground Buffs
Scorching sands- 80 BP

Bug (God Damn RIP)
Bug buzz- 80 BP
Leech life- 75 BP
Megahorn- 100 BP

Bug Buffs
Pin Missile- 40 BP

Psychic
Psychic- 80 BP
extrasensory- 70 BP

Psychic Buffs
Expanding force- 85 BP

Ghost (Wow, Funny)
None

Ghost Buffs
Poltergeist- 120 BP 100 ACC

Dark
None

Steel
Steel Beam- 120 BP 95 ACC

Ice
Icicle Crash- 80 BP
Blizzard- 100 BP
Ice beam- 80 bp
Triple Axel- 10 BP
Glacial Lance- 120 BP

Fairy
Moonblast- 85BP
Dazzling Gleam- 75 BP
Play Rough- 85 BP

Electric (Lmao)
Wild Charge- 85 BP
Thunderbolt- 80 BP
Thunder- 100 BP

Dragon
Dragon Pulse- 80 BP
Draco Meteor- 110 BP
Dragon Tail- 50 BP
Outrage- 90 BP 85 ACC

In conclusion-
I like the direction this is going in. It seems like all of these nerfs are in an effort to make the tiers not be as filled with legendary pokemon because normal pokemon will have a harder time killing them (causing bans and such). If this doesn't happen, oh well, none of our Pokemon have the same kill power they used too. I'm also interested to see how many off these moves get reworked (like stealth rocks).

If these changes are PLA specific and don't make a return, that's cool too, but I would kind of miss it considering ices new buffed weather would be much easier to deal with if pokemon can take more hits.

How does seeing this lead to the conclusion that GF is trying to make Legendaries worse? Its not like the legemds in the game are the only Pokemon to learn the affected moves. Its a gamewide nerf, so it basically averages out back to standard.

 

[Stibe]

How does seeing this lead to the conclusion that GF is trying to make Legendaries worse? Its not like the legemds in the game are the only Pokemon to learn the affected moves. Its a gamewide nerf, so it basically averages out back to standard.

I think they meant the opposite. Legendaries are gonna be too good to stay in their current tiers.

 

[AmbientDinosaur]

I wonder if many of those abilities (ie: for the starters) are simply placeholders

I can see this being the case if they get abilities in gen 9 or in a SwSh update that don't exist already. No point making new abilities for new forms or evolutions in PLA if the game won't feature abilities anyway.

Same goes for H-Arcanine, H-Electrode, H-Braviary, Wyrdeer and Overqwil.

 

[Zepia]

Idk if it's been posted yet, and I'll delete if so/if this is an inappropriate place, but it appears the event Piplup being distributed to Legends in February will have Roost.

 

[Daki]

Do we know evolution requirements for any of the new stuff?

I'm pretty sure that it'll work with a stone or something like that.. Or in the worst-case scenario, it'll work like M-Rayquaza

 

[CroissantBoe]

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

Hisuian Goodra is quite terrifying. Not only does it gain Steel type but also Overcoat?

Goodra is never gonna fucking die oh lord

 

[Samtendo09]

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Jesus Christ

I wasn't expecting Ursaluna having a BST this high, reached none other than Volcarona. I expected something like 530-ish with a lower Speed and slightly lower HP.

Cross-gen evos as a concept is coming back in full fray!

 

[Project_Mars]

People in here thinking most of these changes will stick when a ton of them are made to fit the battle system the game has.

 

[CroissantBoe]

People in here thinking most of these changes will stick when a ton of them are made to fit the battle system the game has.

Base stats seem kinda permanent tho

 

[MrHands]

Idk if it's been posted yet, and I'll delete if so/if this is an inappropriate place, but it appears the event Piplup being distributed to Legends in February will have Roost.

So assuming Home and BDSP compatability what important moves does it lose? Defog, Stealth Rock, Roar, and Scald are TMs. I think it loses Toxic and Knock Off?

 

[Worldie]

Base stats seem kinda permanent tho

Base stats likely will remain, same for abilities, but expecting any of these move changes to transfer to mainline seems pretty pointless.

Even when it came to Let's Go (which also changed around some moves), the only one that stuck was Teleport, all the other changes which were due to the game's mechanics or lack of movesets stayed there.

 

[R0cky505]

Abilities could still change since a few have in the past before their HA became available, like Scolipede, Zapdos, Entei, Raikou and Suicune.

 

[Xenthe]

Anyone know how the new EV system works. Like what are the caps? Is it max 2 stats +1 point like the current system?

 

[Sacrificed]

People in here thinking most of these changes will stick when a ton of them are made to fit the battle system the game has.

I think people more speculate that some changes may apply to future titles like Frostbite .Yeah still weird that majority of the crowd judges these changes without thinking about single player perspective game.

 

[Aurinko]

Do we already have learnsets? I can find everything else.

 

[Flarowak]

Overcoat is nice but if you play Singles instead of Doubles, look at the other Ability, Sap Sipper. Steel types are immune to Sandstorm and Sap Sipper makes it immune to Grass, which means every non-gimmick powder move except Poison Powder, which it's already immune to, and Rage Powder. If you play Doubles, I'll admit Overcoat is better then Sap Sipper, but for Singles, I'm pretty sure you're usually better off with the full Grass immunity (even though it's already almost immune) to a Hail immunity. I'm not saying you're wrong to get excited about H-Goodra's Ability. I'm just saying you're excited about the wrong one. (Unless you play Doubles)


Qwilfish is still a fish. Why can't a fish swim fast? :P

With how relevant hail is these days thanks to ninetails and arctozolt I think there's still pretty good reason to hang on to overcoat, however I agree with your point for sure. :)

 

[Lucky-Luke]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1484059059737272321

 

[Ironmage]

With how relevant hail is these days thanks to ninetails and arctozolt I think there's still pretty good reason to hang on to overcoat, however I agree with your point for sure. :)

It's worth noting that Overcoat also provides powder immunity, so you would be taking Sap Sipper primarily for Leech Seed.

 

[Revelation]

What are all the new weather conditions??

 

[Gliwick]

I don't know if anyone noticed this, but tons of moves got nerfed (and some got buffed) .

I'm pretty sure these changes are game-specific, like LGPE ones, since LA has unique battle mechanics

UPD:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1484059059737272321

I do hope these ones stick though, since freeze and sleep are the most uncompetitive statuses right now

 

[Bakugames]

Drowsy interests me. Its a confusion with no recoil, so maybe it's now permament? Not sure how I feel about that, but it seems more balanced than our current sleep at least

I hope frostbite and snow replace freeze and hail forever. For the love of god

 

[Lucky-Luke]

But is Ursaluna's signature move Lunar Blessing? Or is it from Cresselia?

I'm pretty sure these changes are game-specific, like LGPE ones, since LA has unique battle mechanics

UPD:

I do hope these ones stick though, since freeze and sleep are the most uncompetitive statuses right now

Hopefully! Even snow or at least the same effects on hail.

 

[iChaoz]

Will the revamped battle system remain in future video games? I’m excited to see how that would turn out in the competitive scene.