[READ ME] Tips for Simple Hack Checks

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With the release of Pokebank (with its lackluster hack checking service) and Powersaves, Kalos/Hoenn/Alola are no longer hack free regions. What's worse is that many users here are unaware of the constraints of Pokemon legality meaning hacked Pokemon can spread very quickly.

This thread will serve two purposes. The first is to provide some pointers on hacked Pokemon so you can spot a hacked Pokemon before you offer it / land yourself in hot water for spreading hacked Pokemon. The second is to provide a blacklist of common Pokemon that have been spread rather far from unaware traders. Please remove any Pokemon featured here from your thread immediately. If we catch you offering Pokemon on this list after a prolonged amount of time after they've been added to the list, your thread may suffer some sort of penalty.

Smogon adheres to the following definition:
  • Hacked: The Pokemon was created/edited via the use of any external device to modify the game and the game data in any sort of way. This includes any Pokemon bred from them. For more information on the topic, see the Wi-Fi rules.
Hacks are not allowed on Smogon. Don't trade them; don't request them.

General Rules of Thumb for Distinguishing Hacked Pokemon:
  • Perfect and/or shiny Pokemon obtained in a trade with an unknown trainer (i.e. from the GTS/Wonder Trade/Passerby) stand a reasonable chance of being hacked, so it's safest to assume they are. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.
  • Possible =/= Legitimate.
    • If the odds of getting the Pokemon are worse than the chance of being eaten by a shark while in a plane, it's probably hacked. Save yourself the headache later, assume it's hacked, and don't trade it.
      • RNG abuse is the exception to this, so some common sense goes a long way. See first tip.
Gen 7:
  • Sun and Moon have eliminated many of the illegal ball combinations from previous generations. For a list of the possible ball combinations, see TheMantyke's table.
  • As of Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, the following are now available in Heavy Balls
    • Aron, Lairon, Aggron
    • Tapu Fini, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu
    • Beldum
  • As of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, White/Orange Flabebe can now have their HA's through SOS calls.
  • Nidoran M and F as well as Volbeat and Illumise can't pass Pokeballs as freely since they're different Pokedex #s. This means that stuff like Moon Ball Sheer Force Nidoking and Sports Ball Prankster Volbeat are illegal.
  • Shellos can inherit Pokeballs from different color Shellos.
  • Beast Ball Gen 7 Starters are illegal.
  • The following Pokemon cannot be shiny:
    • Cosmog/Cosmoem
    • Solgaleo
    • Lunala
    • Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Lele
    • Zygarde
    • Necrozma
    • Marshadow
    • Magearna
  • Tapu Koko can be shiny via event only.
  • Shiny Ultra Beasts can be acquired via Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon only (not regular Sun/Moon).
  • Pikachu with Surf can be shiny if acquired via the gift in Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon.
Gen 6:
  • The following Pokemon cannot be shiny:
    • Zygarde
    • Hoopa
  • Arceus can be shiny as of Generation 6 Event – M18 Désert (Désser) City Arceus. This Arceus has multiple wondercards one of which is forced shiny while the others are normal Arceus and have one of the 17 type-plates associated with it and the 18th being a normal Arceus holding a Silk Scarf. NO ARCEUS OBTAINED FROM GENERATION 5 AND UNDER CAN BE LEGALLY SHINY.
  • Diancie can be shiny by the (Japan only) Pokémon Centre Diancie event.
  • Yveltal and Xerneas can be shiny as of a Pokémon X, Y and Z tie-in giveaway. Any which were caught are still hacked.
  • Legendaries caught in X and Y cannot be shiny.
  • Deoxys, Rayquaza, Kyogre, and Groudon cannot be shiny and have the Pentagon.
  • Shiny Reshiram and Zekrom are only obtainable in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. Previous games had a shiny check in place for them.
  • Super-size Pumpkaboo line is available with hidden ability (Insomnia) only in a Cherish Ball via Spooky 2014 Super Size Pumpkaboo event. It was also possible to get a wondercard that also provided a female Pumpkaboo.
  • Pikachu can have Endeavor via a Generation 6 event.
  • Pokemon caught or bred on X and Y have "memories" that are checkable by an NPC outside the Anistar Pokemon Center, Pokemon brought over from previous generations (including those that have been hacked to look like they are from Kalos) and 6th gen events do not have memories and will say "The Pokemon seems to have a good memory, but it doesn't seem to be able to remember...".
  • Zoroark may have Sludge Bomb via a Generation 6 event.
  • Gengar (shiny) may have Sludge Wave via a Generation 6 event.
  • Regarding apricorn balls:
    • Only Pokemon obtainable in the Generation IV games Heart Gold and Soul Silver can be legitimately captured in an Apricorn ball. Transferring those Pokemon to Generation VI and breeding them will allow the offspring to have an Apricorn ball, along with any egg move combination, but they cannot have their hidden ability.
      • This restriction has changed in Gen 7. See here.
    • Using Pokemon that have an Apricorn ball (or any other ball) hacked on as a parent, and breeding it in Generation VI is not legitimate, and is a hack, even though it was legitimately obtained through breeding.
Gen 5:
  • There are no restrictions on the IVs and nature of most 5th gen wonder cards, including most of the competitively relevant ones. However, nearly all are locked to not be shiny.
  • Shiny Reshiram and Zekrom are only obtainable in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. Previous games had a shiny check in place for them.
  • Pokemon from the Dream World, Dream Radar, and Hidden Grottoes in the 5th gen games cannot be shiny.
Gen 4:
  • Only 4 natures are possible for 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon caught in generations 3 & 4 (exceptions below). These natures are calm, docile, modest, and timid.
    • Wild Pokemon with variable genders (including Heatran) caught in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum have 7 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, hasty, modest, quirky, sassy, and timid. Wild Pokemon with variable genders caught in Heart Gold and Soul Silver have 6 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, modest, quiet, sassy, and timid.
    • Shinies obtained through the Pokeradar in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum can have any IV/nature combination, but it still requires ID abuse, and is considered one of the most difficult types of Generation 4 abuse. In most cases, unless it's someone who's proven themselves capable of doing such an abuse, it's pretty safe to assume it's a hack.
  • Generation 4 wonder card events may have any combination of IVs and nature. However, almost every generation 4 event is locked to not be shiny. The only exceptions are Manaphy who can be hatched shiny by transferring the egg to another save file, caught Shaymin and Darkrai from the Platinum Member Card and Oak's Letter events, and always shiny events (Eevee, Pichu, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, and Milotic).
  • Wild Arceus from Generation 4 are not obtainable as the event was never released.
Gen 3:
  • Only 4 natures are possible for 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon caught in generations 3 & 4 (exceptions below). These natures are calm, docile, modest, and timid.
    • Wild Pokemon (excluding Legendaries) from Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, and Emerald have 9 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, careful, docile, hardy, lax, modest, naive, rash, and timid.
  • Generation 3 wonder card style events are difficult to RNG. Extremespeed Zigzagoon can only be RNG’d for shininess and not IV’s or nature. In most cases, unless it's someone who's proven themselves capable of doing such an abuse for any of these events, it's pretty safe to assume it's a hack.
  • The “Wish” event Pokemon is virtually nonexistent. Any you see offered are almost certainly hacked.
  • A shiny Mew must be Japanese, from Hoenn, and at least level 30 as the only way to obtain it was through the Old Sea Chart in Emerald given out exclusively in Japan.
  • The 2011 event Celebi should have the OT WIN2011. OT GAMESTP Celebi is from an unreleased event obtained by ripping an unreleased wondercard rom and are hacked.
  • Shiny Deoxys can only be obtained through the 3rd gen event item.
Gen 2 (GSC Virtual Console games):
  • Pokemon imported from these games will have their Hidden Abilities.
  • Any Pokemon can be shiny when imported.
  • When imported, every Pokemon will have at least 3 31 IVs, even if they can breed.
    • This means that certain Hidden Power IV combinations are impossible, including HP Fighting entirely.
Gen 1 (RBY Virtual Console games):
  • Pokemon imported from these games will have their Hidden Abilities.
  • Any Pokemon (except the event Mew) not encountered in the grass/surfing can be shiny when imported. See here.
  • When imported, every Pokemon will have at least 3 31 IVs, even if they can breed.
    • The event Mew (OT: GF | ID: 22796) is guaranteed to have 5 31 IVs.
    • This means that certain Hidden Power IV combinations are impossible, including HP Fighting entirely.
Other:
  • No Shadow Pokemon from Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness can be shiny.
  • A Pokemon that does not normally have a premier ribbon attached from a special event is hacked. This is the result of improperly cloning through Pokecheck. However, this does not invalidate the legality of proper clones.
Feel free to PM a Wi-Fi moderator if you notice any errors on this list or wish for a new rule to be added.

Please use this form to fill out information:
Code:
Language:
Species:
OT:
ID No.:
IVs:
EVs (optional):
Ability:
Pokemon's name:
Gender:
Level:
Pokeball:
Shiny?:
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify):
Moves:
Nature:
Region of origin:
Characteristic:
Ribbons:
Other comments (optional):
Language: Possible languages are: ENG, FRE, GER, ITA, JPN, KOR, SPA. If no language appears at the top it is the same as the game it is currently on.
Species: The species of Pokemon. If it's a special form/forme please include that too.
OT: The name of the Original Trainer, for foreign characters you can't type just put the number of characters.
ID No.: The ID number of the original trainer.
IVs: The exact IVs of all 6 stats (please do not include ranges). Use an IV Calculator such as Metalkid's if you need to.
EVs (optional): The EVs, if you do not know the EVs you can check by saving and using a Reset Bag in Super Training (reset to get both EVs and the Reset Bag back).
Ability: The Ability the Pokemon has (does not matter if an Ability Capsule has been used). For Giratina-O and Therian Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus please convert to Giratina-A/Incarnate forme first.
Pokemon's name: The current name/nickname of the Pokemon, for foreign characters you can't type just put the number of characters.
Gender: Is it a boy, or is it a girl? (or neither)
Level: The current level of the Pokemon.
Pokeball: The Pokeball the Pokemon is in.
Shiny?: Yes or No.
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Yes (and specify which), or No.
Moves: The moves the Pokemon currently knows.
Nature: The nature of the Pokemon.
Region of origin: Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Sinnoh/Unova/Kalos/Alola, also include if it was a "fateful encounter".
Characteristic: The characteristic of the Pokemon.
Ribbons: Any Ribbons the Pokemon has.
Other comments (optional): Anything else about the Pokemon you might want to say. If you use external programs to view hidden data such as PID, SID, and game of origin include them here.
/me pet Dark Ray


Possible Pokeball + Pokemon combinations:
Since the GTS doesn't have check for illegal combinations involving Poké Balls, I've compiled a list of various ball legality combinations. Impossible combinations are not allowed to be traded here due to the no hacked parents rule, which can be traced in this instance. This list is for Pokémon bred in 6th gen only - all previous generation Pokémon can only be bred in the standard Poké Ball. An updated list for 7th gen can be found here. Listed in alphabetical order by the first Pokémon in the family in the Pokédex.


Hidden Ability Unova (Oshawott, Tepig, Snivy line) and Johto (Chikorita, Totodile, Cyndaquil line) starters are available in Pokeball only.

Nidoran♀ and Illumise allow for Nidoran♂ and Volbeat respectively for the category they're listed in. Master and Cherish Balls cannot be passed on during breeding.

Standard Ball set:
Poké, Great, Ultra, Premier, Repeat, Timer, Nest, Net, Dive, Luxury, Heal, Quick, Dusk.


Everything that can be captured except male-only and genderless species.

Level, Lure, Moon, Friend, Love, Heavy, Fast
Everything that can be captured in HG/SS, excluding those only available through PokéWalker/Bug Catching Contest. These are all incompatible with their Hidden Ability.
Abra
Absol
Aipom
Barboach
Bellsprout
Bidoof
Buizel
Buneary
Burmy
Carnivine
Caterpie
Chansey
Chatot
Cherubi
Chimecho
Chinchou
Clamperl
Clefairy
Combee
Corsola
Cubone
Delibird
Diglett
Doduo
Dratini
Drowzee
Dunsparce
Ekans
Electabuzz
Exeggcute
Farfetch'd
Gastly
Geodude
Girafarig
Gligar
Goldeen
Grimer
Growlithe
Gulpin
Heracross
Hoothoot
Hoppip
Horsea
Houndour
Jigglypuff
Jynx
Kangaskhan
Koffing
Krabby
Kricketot
Lapras
Larvitar
Ledyba
Lickitung
Luvdisc
Machop
Magikarp
Magmar
Makuhita
Mankey
Mantine
Mareep
Marill
Mawile
Meditite
Meowth
Miltank
Minun
Misdreavus
Mr. Mime
Murkrow
Natu
Nidoran♀
Numel
Oddish
Onix
Paras
Phanpy
Pidgey
Pikachu
Pineco
Plusle
Poliwag
Ponyta
Poochyena
Psyduck
Qwilish
Ralts
Rattata
Relicanth
Remoraid
Rhyhorn
Roselia
Sableye
Sandshrew
Seedot
Seel
Sentret
Shellder
Shinx
Shroomish
Shuckle
Skarmory
Slakoth
Slowpoke
Slugma
Smeargle
Sneasel
Snorlax
Snubbull
Spearow
Spinarak
Spinda
Spoink
Stantler
Starly
Sudowoodo
Sunkern
Swablu
Swinub
Taillow
Tangela
Teddiursa
Tentacool
Venonat
Vulpix
Weedle
Whismur
Wingull
Wobbuffet
Wooper
Wurmple
Yanma
Zigzagoon
Zubat
Safari Ball + Hidden Ability is not legitimately possible.
Abra
Aipom
Aron
Bagon
Barboach
Bellsprout
Bidoof
Buizel
Cacnea
Carnivine
Carvanha
Chansey
Chimecho
Clefairy
Corphish
Croagunk
Cubone
Diglett
Doduo
Dratini
Drowzee
Duskull
Ekans
Electabuzz
Electrike
Exeggcute
Farfetch'd
Gastly
Geodude
Gible
Girafarig
Gligar
Goldeen
Grimer
Gulpin
Heracross
Hippopotas
Hoothoot
Hoppip
Houndour
Illumise
Jigglypuff
Kangaskhan
Kecleon
Koffing
Krabby
Lapras
Larvitar
Ledyba
Lickitung
Lotad
Machop
Magikarp
Magmar
Mareep
Marill
Meditite
Miltank
Misdreavus
Mr. Mime
Murkrow
Natu
Nidoran♀
Nosepass
Oddish
Onix
Pachirisu
Paras
Phanpy
Pidgey
Pikachu
Pineco
Pinsir
Poliwag
Ponyta
Psyduck
Rattata
Remoraid
Rhyhorn
Riolu
Roselia
Sandshrew
Scyther
Seedot
Sentret
Seviper
Shinx
Shroomish
Shuckle
Shuppet
Skorupi
Slakoth
Slowpoke
Smeargle
Snubbull
Spearow
Spheal
Spinarak
Spinda
Stantler
Starly
Sunkern
Surskit
Tangela
Teddiursa
Torkoal
Trapinch
Tropius
Venonat
Wobbuffet
Wooper
Yanma
Zangoose
Zigzagoon
Zubat
Sport Ball + Hidden Ability is not legitimately possible
Caterpie
Combee
Illumise
Kricketot
Nincada
Paras
Pinsir
Scyther
Venonat
Weedle
Wurmple
Certain Pokémon didn't have a Hidden Ability in 5th gen; they will be noted. Anything in this list can also be captured in the standard ball set (notably Fossil Pokémon).
Abra
Absol
Aerodactyl
Aipom
Alomomola
Anorith
Aron
Audino
Axew
Bagon
Barboach
Basculin (both colours)
Bellsprout
Bidoof
Buizel
Buneary
Burmy
Cacnea
Carnivine
Carvanha
Castform
Caterpie
Chansey
Chatot
Cherubi
Chimecho
Chinchou
Clamperl
Clefairy
Combee
Corphish
Corsola
Cottonee
Cranidos
Croagunk
Cubone
Delibird
Diglett
Doduo
Dratini
Drifloon
Drilbur
Drowzee
Druddigon
Ducklett
Dunsparce
Durant
Duskull - No Dream + HA
Dwebble
Eevee
Ekans
Electabuzz
Electrike
Elgyem
Emolga
Exeggcute
Farfetch'd
Feebas
Finneon
Gastly
Geodude
Gible
Girafarig
Glameow
Gligar
Goldeen
Grimer
Growlithe
Gulpin
Heatmor
Heracross
Hippopotas
Hoothoot
Hoppip
Horsea
Houndour
Illumise
Jigglypuff
Joltik
Jynx
Kabuto
Kangaskhan
Karrablast
Kecleon - No Dream + HA
Koffing
Krabby
Kricketot
Lapras
Larvitar
Ledyba
Lickitung
Lileep
Lotad
Luvdisc
Machop
Magikarp
Magmar
Makuhita
Mankey
Mantine
Maractus
Mareep
Marill
Mawile
Meditite
Meowth
Miltank
Minun - No Dream + HA
Misdreavus
Mr. Mime
Munna
Murkrow
Natu
Nidoran♀
Nincada
Nosepass
Numel
Oddish
Omanyte
Onix
Pachirsu
Paras
Pawniard
Petilil
Phanpy
Pidgey
Pidove
Pineco
Pinsir
Plusle - No Dream + HA
Poliwag
Ponyta
Poochyena
Psyduck
Qwilfish
Ralts
Rattata
Relicanth
Remoraid
Rhyhorn
Riolu
Roggenrola
Roselia
Sableye
Sandile
Sandshrew
Scraggy
Scyther
Seedot
Seel
Sentret
Seviper
Shellder
Shellos (both East and West sea)
Shelmet
Shieldon
Shinx
Shroomish
Shuckle
Shuppet
Sigilyph
Skarmory
Skitty
Skorupi
Slakoth
Slowpoke
Slugma
Smeargle
Sneasel
Snorlax
Snorunt
Snubbull
Solosis
Spearow
Spheal
Spinarak
Spinda
Spiritomb
Spoink
Stantler
Starly
Stunfisk
Stunky
Sudowoodo
Sunkern
Surskit
Swablu
Swinub
Taillow
Tangela
Teddiursa
Tentacool
Timburr
Tirtouga
Togepi
Torkoal
Trapinch
Tropius
Tympole
Vanillite
Venipede
Venonat
Vulpix
Wailmer
Weedle
Whismur
Wingull
Wobbuffet
Wooper
Wurmple
Yanma
Zangoose
Zigzagoon
Zubat
These Pokémon lines can't be captured as a female in any game at this time. All genderless and male-only species also fall in this category.
Amaura
Archen
Chimchar
Mudkip
Oshawott
Piplup
Pumpkaboo (Super Sized with its Hidden Ability Insomnia)
Snivy
Tepig
Torchic
Treecko
Turtwig
Tyrunt
These Pokémon can only be captured by the following balls: Poké, Great, Ultra, Premier, Repeat, Timer, Nest, Net, Dive, Luxury.
Chikorita
Cyndaquil
Totodile


Common hacked OTs:
Pokecheck's unofficial blacklist, maintained by moderator Invictus.
AuSLove.tv


Thanks to the following users for contributing towards this:
- Dark Ray
- Hozu
- TheMantyke
- Esmeya
- ProjectTitan313
- shiny finder


Last updated: 13/12/2017: by shiny finder.
  • 13/12/2017: by shiny finder:
    • Added more legality info for USUM
    • Added section for Gen 2 VC games
  • 12/11/2017: by shiny finder:
    • Added Teddiursa to Gen 6 Safari Ball list. (Thanks KingHeracrossTheBug!)
    • Added some early USUM stuff (WIP)
  • 25/07/2017: by shiny finder:
    • Reorganized thread.
    • Updated form.
    • Added sections for Gen 7 and RBY VC.
    • Updated "common tips".
    • Added Sludge Wave Gengar event in Gen 6.
    • Added AusLove.tv to list of common hacked OTs.
  • 29/12/2015: by .com:
    • Removed Diancie from cannot be shiny list, and added entry about relevant event.
  • 29/11/2015: by .com:
    • Added shiny Xerneas and Yveltal to the list.
    • Added note about Endeavour Pikachu.
    • Added note about Sludge Bomb Zoroark.
    • Added Diancie and Hoopa to cannot be shiny list.
  • 4/10/2015: by Esmeya:
    • Updated with relevant info based on discoveries of Colosseum/XD RNG, Hoenn release (a few), and a few new events.
    • Cleared general errors.
    • Deleted an entry that was not relevant to hack checking.
  • 11/03/2015: by Esmeya:
    • Arceus can be shiny, only by Generation 6 event (can also be non-shiny from the same event).
    • Super Sized, HA Pumpkaboo is available in Cherish Ball (can't be bred), by Generation 6 event.
    • HA Johto and Unova starters (Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile; and Oshawott, Tepig and Snivy lines) are available in Poké Ball only, by Generation 6, Pokémon Bank event.
  • 17/03/2015: by .com:
    • Added "Pentagon?" to the form.
 
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I thought it used to be required that the OT and origins of all pokemon in trade threads had to be provided in order to operate a trade thread, as to prevent problems like this from occurring. I see very few threads on here anymore that are like that.
 

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I thought it used to be required that the OT and origins of all pokemon in trade threads had to be provided in order to operate a trade thread, as to prevent problems like this from occurring. I see very few threads on here anymore that are like that.
All Pokemon that you did not breed or capture yourself are required to list this information. Pokemon you have captured or bred yourself may ignore this. If you discover any trade threads that have Pokemon the owners obviously did not capture or breed themselves, contact me or another Wi-Fi moderator and we will inform them to update their information or face a lock.
 

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Just a small correction, there were shiny Wondercards events from Japan, all movie tie-ins iirc (shiny Hydreigon, Genesect, and I think Golurk), however these are set to always be shiny. I find your wording somewhat vague on this, I would mention that Wondercards in general are either always shiny or never shiny. It's implied, but not explicit in the OP.

And honestly, if you are a good trader, you should have registered your save file on Pokecheck and be prepared to share the legality analysis for your own stuff if there is doubt (except for events). There are a lot of shady people around and any form of transparency is good.

As a final note....fuck all of you people with swaths of banked mons. I am jealous lol.
 
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Legends :
Timid Heatran w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : Michael, ID : 23731) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon. I have one of this and yes it has a premier ribbon.

Calm Heatran w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : Hyoga, ID : 17878) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Manaphy, Timid Latios w/ Defog (OT : Mat, ID : 62971) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Zapdos w/HP Ice/Heat Wave (OT : a korean name, ID : 22416) Reason : FRLG isn't RNG abusable yet

Calm Celebi (OT : WIN2011, ID : 02211) Reason : Pure hack, lacks the event ribbon. I have one of this and yes it doesn't have a ribbion.

Timid Celebi w/ SR (OT : GAMESTP, ID : 02271) Reason : Unreleased event wondercard

Naive Landorus-Therian (Sand Force Landorus) w/ HP Ice (OT : Pietro, ID : 19364) Reason : Pokémon without HA caught in a dream ball

Naive Landorus-Therian (Sheer Force Landorus) w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : MISTERr, ID : 41725) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon . I have one of this and yes it has a premier ribbon.

Adamant Landorus-Therian (Sheer Force Landorus) (OT : ホワイト(Howaito), ID : 44864) Reason : isn't in a dream ball

Shiny Timid Sheer Force Landorus w/ HP Ice (OT : Justin, ID : 50582) Reason : Dream World Pokémon aren't shiny, OT is a known hacker, has a Premier Ribbon

Jolly Terrakion w/ SR (OT : Kenny, ID : 14529) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Latias w/ Defog (OT : Smogon, ID : 11465) Reason : incorrect SID/PID

Timid Latios w/ Trick (OT : Kirk, ID : 01916) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Latios w/ HP Fire (OT : Gold, ID : 54972) Reason : invalid IV spread for gen 4

Adamant Kyurem (OT : ひめ (Hime), ID : 32760) Reason : English region

Lonely Kyurem w/ Earth Power (OT : Rishik, ID : 14170) Reason : OT used pokégen for all his mons

Timid Deoxys w/SR (OT : erics, ID : 06789) Reason : Method 1 RNG in emerald doesn't allow perfect shiny spreads

Rash Raikou w/ HP Ice, Aurasphere (OT : クラウン(Kuraun), ID : 06180) Reason : lacks event ribbon . I have one of this and yes it doesn't have a ribbon.

Bold Suicune (OT : nazo, ID : 32760) Reason : Impossible IV spread on HGSS . I have one of this and it seems unlegit to me.

Timid Mew w/ Nasty Plot (OT : TPC, ID : 10160) Reason : wrong OT

credit goes to crashteamalphing
 
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Legends :
Timid Heatran w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : Michael, ID : 23731) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon. I have one of this and yes it has a premier ribbon.

Calm Heatran w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : Hyoga, ID : 17878) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Manaphy, Timid Latios w/ Defog (OT : Mat, ID : 62971) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Zapdos w/HP Ice/Heat Wave (OT : a korean name, ID : 22416) Reason : FRLG isn't RNG abusable yet

Calm Celebi (OT : WIN2011, ID : 02211) Reason : Pure hack, lacks the event ribbon. I have one of this and yes it doesn't have a ribbion.

Timid Celebi w/ SR (OT : GAMESTP, ID : 02271) Reason : Unreleased event wondercard

Naive Landorus-Therian (Sand Force Landorus) w/ HP Ice (OT : Pietro, ID : 19364) Reason : Pokémon without HA caught in a dream ball

Naive Landorus-Therian (Sheer Force Landorus) w/ HP Ice/SR (OT : MISTERr, ID : 41725) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon . I have one of this and yes it has a premier ribbon.

Adamant Landorus-Therian (Sheer Force Landorus) (OT : ホワイト(Howaito), ID : 44864) Reason : isn't in a dream ball

Shiny Timid Sheer Force Landorus w/ HP Ice (OT : Justin, ID : 50582) Reason : Dream World Pokémon aren't shiny, OT is a known hacker, has a Premier Ribbon

Jolly Terrakion w/ SR (OT : Kenny, ID : 14529) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Latias w/ Defog (OT : Smogon, ID : 11465) Reason : incorrect SID/PID

Timid Latios w/ Trick (OT : Kirk, ID : 01916) Reason : has a Premier Ribbon

Timid Latios w/ HP Fire (OT : Gold, ID : 54972) Reason : invalid IV spread for gen 4

Adamant Kyurem (OT : ひめ (Hime), ID : 32760) Reason : English region

Lonely Kyurem w/ Earth Power (OT : Rishik, ID : 14170) Reason : OT used pokégen for all his mons

Timid Deoxys w/SR (OT : erics, ID : 06789) Reason : Method 1 RNG in emerald doesn't allow perfect shiny spreads

Rash Raikou w/ HP Ice, Aurasphere (OT : クラウン(Kuraun), ID : 06180) Reason : lacks event ribbon . I have one of this and yes it doesn't have a ribbon.

Bold Suicune (OT : nazo, ID : 32760) Reason : Impossible IV spread on HGSS . I have one of this and it seems unlegit to me.

Timid Mew w/ Nasty Plot (OT : TPC, ID : 10160) Reason : wrong OT

credit goes to crashteamalphing

Well I wanna bring a correction regarding the bold suicune. The reason it's hacked is actually because it is from 3rd gen and 6IV (Kanto is its region of origin).
 
#16
I have a large selection of Gen 5 pokemon on my trade thread...could someone let me know if some are known hacks? I can't really tell. My thread link is in my sig. I'll remove any that are known to be hacked, so I don't trade them off.
 

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#21
Sorry for the dumb question but I thought Shiny Jirachi is actually possible? Or is it not?
The WISHMKR one can be shiny, yeah, but Bank doesn't let it through for some reason, I think.
Shiny Jirachi is possible (Colosseum Bonus disc only) It can't be RNG'd and Nintendo apparently refuses to believe it exists because it wasn't supposed to. Very much sadness.
 
#24
I just wanted to ask if the following pokemon is legal


Darkrai

OT:
Mat 19849
Nature: Timid
IV Spread: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Came from Sinnoh

If further information is needed, let me know.
 

Esmeya

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#25
I just wanted to ask if the following pokemon is legal


Darkrai

OT:
Mat 19849
Nature: Timid
IV Spread: 31/31/31/31/31/31

If further information is needed, let me know.
It should be noted that the Latias with the OT Kirk, and the Manaphy with the OT Mat are only hacked because of the premier ribbon. The originals both belong to known RNG abusers (cannibal and Bond697, respectively).
That's answered here (kind of, I'm apparently blind, but the information still applies). If it has no Premier Ribbon then it's fine.