Maybe 57 is for Wonder Skin, then?
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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I thought Breadboy was talking about training a Dunsparce in SV, but encryption constant is copied from the PID on transfer from Gen 5 either way.
I come back to this because I noticed the stone evolutions also show these weird remnants of what game they last existed in, much like prepatch BDSP.
If you were in SWSH like Arcanine then you get the whole full relearn prevo moveset deal, with Flamethrower moved to Level 5 for some reason.
If you weren't in SWSH like Mismagius then you have to deal with the USUM learnset with snapped moves removed, you don't even get the nice patched BDSP learnset option. At least Delcatty isn't back to be ruined again.
If you're a new stone evolution like Scovillain or Bellibolt then you just have the same learn levels as your prevolution.
Breeding is step based still but it seems harder to determine what a step is in this non tile-based world so I guess seconds are a more consistent term of measurement. Eggs are generated in picnics automatically.
I refuse to believe Game Freak would load the entire open world at once.
If a bunch of nerds on a competitive kiddy game forum can realize the mistake at that, surely at least one of their programmers would too.
If a bunch of nerds on a competitive kiddy game forum can realize the mistake at that, surely at least one of their programmers would too.
My guess is that 56 works as a negative flag of sorts as some sort of safety check. Specifically, healing moves whose healing is not reversed by the target (e.g. yourself) having Liquid Ooze.
Heal Block would also make sense, but it got dexited and there would be no reason to continue updating it with PLA moves unless it was done as part of a general case routine.
58 to 60 are the most intriguing ones, especially the fact that they all have Guillotine. Is this flag definitely new? If so, I figure maybe it's some sort of debugging thing. We can fairly categorically rule out 58 by itself having a discernible functional purpose, since there is no difference between Guillotine and Horn Drill. The three combined contain all four OHKO moves, which makes me think we should maybe be taking them as a single bloc.
Taken as a whole, all moves in the three groups except for Glare (that I can see) have less than 100% accuracy and some sort of effect applied or rolled on hit, which would ordinarily make me think it was some weird obsolete implementation of "make sure only to roll the effect if the move hits". A good number of them have some sort of conditional modifier that causes them to bypass the normal accuracy calculation aswell; 59 notably includes all moves that become guaranteed to hit under rain (except maybe Springtide Storm?). It's definitely not all moves with such modifiers (Pokemon always get hit by some moves if they've Minimised, but Dragon Rush is the only such move on the list).
I would hope that isn't the case. Either way they have some patching to do unless they're going to leave it until DLC or...never.
We partially tested in the battle mechanics thread. Pain Split isn't in Unknown_57, but Good As Gold blocks it. Perish Song isn't in Unknown_57, but Good As Gold can't hear it. Salt Cure is in Unknown_57, but Good As Gold doesn't stop sodium chloride from corroding gold. Unknown_57 does explain strange bedfellows such as Trick, Life Dew, Helping Hand, and Defog all getting blocked while Haze remains unaffected, though.
More uh...yeah. More Oof.
I really hope Gamefreak has a patch ready.
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I know right? I only found it myself when I went looking on Dragon Rush's page to figure out what could possibly be interesting about the move.
Wonder Skin is an interesting possibility for 57. Specifically, the part where that accuracy reduction is not applied if it would cause accuracy to go below 50%. Again, a recurring theme with these four flags is doing weird things with the accuracy formula in certain circumstances.
I think it's possible Haze doesn't target but is instead applied as a field effect or self-target effect, so it can't be blocked for the same reason Electric Terrain presumably can't.
Re: framerate issues, these are quite egregious and make me think there is an actual bug at work here. The Switch version of Skyrim's anniversary edition had similar problems, and it turned out to be some textures introduced by the patch being converted over from the console version incorrectly.
The students kicking their legs is an ubiquitous issue, but the game hiccuping and loading buildings in battle is something I haven't seen in my suspicious copy of the game. I play docked though, so maybe that's the reason.
Yeah a lot of these issues are mostly handheld mode. There have been reports of issues happening while docked but not this bad. That first clip there was even worse than the prior one I posted.
I lost my starter in the grasses.
How the f-??!
How the f-??!
That first one looks more like an issue with Switch itself than the game, because that looks very similar to an issue I ran into trying to play a game off a shitty SD card. So if that person's playing a digital copy, which they probably are unless they got a copy early or are Australian, they may want to try a different SD card before blaming the game.
More uh...yeah. More Oof.
As for the second one just looks like unimportant background elements running at a lower framer ate when undocked, I've seen Kirby do that too when undocked. It's likely intended not slowdown.
Wait on that. The people who work on coding in Showdown are probably working on it as we speak but it'll need time before Gen 9 can be fully up and running. It'll be soon but I'm sure they'll announce when Gen 9 is on Showdown.
Finally playing it right now. Handheld mode. "whole game is like this" is straight up bullshit.
More uh...yeah. More Oof.
The students tho...
If the game is more prone to errors running from an SD card compared to from a cart, it could explain why reviewers generally ran into more performance issues. To my knowledge reviewers usually get codes for digital copies of games for reviews, rather than physical.
All the other attacks that deal double damage to Minimized targets are weight-based or some form of slamming attack. And then we have Dragon Rush, which is just... dragon tackle but stronger. At least I THINK that's what it's meant to be.
EDIT: never mind, it's called Dragon Dive in Japanese
I thought Cyclizar would turn out to be a proof of concept garbage mon. Quite glad, tbh, that it's looking to be pretty strong in its own right, showing exactly why its paradox versions are so overbearing while also showing off that paradoxes don't necessarily get all of the goodies their base forms get.
Speaking of Paradox mons based on already strong mons, there's the DLC mons... we've seen their moves are roughly called Hydro Steam and Psycho Blade(?). Anyone else thinking they will be 670BST mons working as counters to their respective game's box legend, with Paradox Suicune setting rain and Paradox Virizion setting Psychic Terrain? I would have initially thought Grassy Terrain, but Psychic makes more sense as an offense-themed terrain to support other Ubers.
Then you have the third legendary, which I think will either be a boring mirror or have an effect absolutely nobody sees coming, nothing in between.
Speaking of Paradox mons based on already strong mons, there's the DLC mons... we've seen their moves are roughly called Hydro Steam and Psycho Blade(?). Anyone else thinking they will be 670BST mons working as counters to their respective game's box legend, with Paradox Suicune setting rain and Paradox Virizion setting Psychic Terrain? I would have initially thought Grassy Terrain, but Psychic makes more sense as an offense-themed terrain to support other Ubers.
Then you have the third legendary, which I think will either be a boring mirror or have an effect absolutely nobody sees coming, nothing in between.
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Maybe 57 is for Mycelium Might? Is there a way to skill swap it to test with salt cure and pain split?
Edit: you could actually test this w rain dance or rest on toedscruel too. I’m assuming there’s already a separate flag for magic coat/magic bounce right?
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Nah no way they're 680. That's absolutely being reserved for the third legendary
I think they'll have 590, maybe 600, BST. Either equal to the mega-based paradoxes or just slightly better but still in the "outside Restricted" zone.