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[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the simultaneous role of a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its foe first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muscle past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further augmented by Serperior's use of Protect and Substitute to play mind games and bait potentially devastating single-use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weaknesses of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott—Taunt and recovery moves—do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon that attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds over fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to: faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: SubSeed Breaker
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent for itself, allowing it to beat anything that it can outspeed, take a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's STAB option which will boost its Special Attack after each successful use. This allows Serperior to beat back recovery users like Mega Slowbro and most Mega Altaria. Substitute is used to block attacks from opposing Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can also be used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

248 HP and 24 Defense EVs allow Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp as well as an Air Slash from non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and force mind games with it. 232 Speed EVs let Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon like Mega Metagross. The 4 Special Defense EVs are leftovers, giving Serperior a better chance for playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants. Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat-dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, which rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more recovery alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely. 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe can also be run if you need to outspeed a few niche Pokemon, specifically Mega Lucario, while also Speed tying with opposing Serperior for better odds in the mirror matchup. These EVs also maintain the Garchomp matchup.


Usage Tips
========

If the opposing Pokemon is slower than Serperior and cannot immediately threaten it with a powerful Z-Move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After a foe is seeded, simply alternate Protect and Substitute to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If a foe can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z-Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon-Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can land a Leech Seed without being KOed by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn or by using Leech Seed on a weaker hit that it can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case it is running the niche set of offensive Fairium Z. Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z-Move followed up by Fleur Cannon or if they don't break Serperior's Substitute on a turn. If an opposing Pokemon recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like most Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seed in order to avoid being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice item Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute on turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon that can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not they will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior if it predicts the wrong set. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed after a Dragon Dance boost while failing to do enough damage without boosts itself. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave Serperior open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, Serperior will want to use Leech Seed on turn one and then use Leaf Storm, Protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP.


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini, and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier foes like Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these teammates, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, most Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and, in the case of Greninja, other Dragonite variants that could play the role that Choice Scarf Dragonite provides. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water-, and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini, and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, but also slighly lessen prediction around Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around it with with physical attacks.


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong super effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one turn it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them on the next turn.

**Powerful single attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z and offensive Deoxys-S, which can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as it attempts to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z-Move users, like Tapu Lele and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be clear.

**Substitute bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO it. This includes powerful sound move users like Uproar Meloetta, Bug Buzz Genesect, and Hyper Voice Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it, unless Mega Altaria not only runs Fire Blast and a more specially offensive set than what is recommended, but also wins four successive mind games.

**Grass-types**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn. This excludes Kartana, which Serperior can easily break through with Leaf Storm.

**Taunt users that resist Grass**: While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that have the combination of access to Taunt, a resistance to Leaf Storm, and offensive presence will be able to take it down. These include the likes of Heatran, Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[Chickenpie2, 305552], [Osra, 239997], [Freddy Kyogre, 321529]]
- Grammar checked by: [[The Dutch Plumberjack, 232216], [Mafeking, 122460]]
 
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[OVERVIEW]

  • Serperior plays the role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1.
  • If Serperior can seed its opponent first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Magearna, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense.
  • This is further compounded by Serperior's usage of Protect and Substitute, to play mind games and fish out potentially devastating single use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y.
  • The usual weakness of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like Kee Berry Mew, stall Deoxys-S (Deoxys is still faster than you and can spam Amnesia) and Mega Sableye.
  • Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to; faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: Leech Seed Offense
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 184 HP / 72 Def / 20 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

  • Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to itself, allowing Serperior to beat anything that it can outspeed and land a Leech Seed on, alongside other Pokemon like Mega Altaria (What are you trying to say here?)
  • Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option, which will double Serperior's Special Attack after each usage. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, like Mega Altaria, Mew, and Mega Slowbro
  • Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users, or provide an extra layer of defense when a Pokemon chooses to
  • Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-Create from Choice Band Victini
  • Taunt can be potentially used to beat back prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up, who can potentially threaten Serperior even after they have been hit by Leech Seed with setup options.

Set Details
========

  • 184 HP and 72 Def allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp.
  • 232 Speed lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon, like Jumpluff. find a more relevant example, that Serperior can actually reliably beat. Mega Metagross, or even Choice Band Archeops.
  • 20 Special Defense gives Serperior a better chance with playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants ->how so? Does it let it survive any hits specifically?
  • Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm, as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that moves like Rock Tomb, Bulldoze, Icy Wind, and Confide actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Mega Altaria, and Type: Null, who rely on these moves to gain the upper hand.
  • Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely.

Usage Tips
========

  • If your opponent is slower than you, and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you with a powerful Z move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed.
  • After an opponent is seeded, simply use Protect and Substitute in succession to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health
  • If an opponent can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn, or Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior can survive used to break Serperior's Substitute.
  • If an opponent Taunts or If the opponent Taunts, you don't have a choice lol recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like Mega Altaria and bulky Mega Gyarados.
  • If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, in order to prevent being afflicted by the condition. give some examples of pokemon that may do this
  • Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however.
  • Against setup Pokemon who can potentially threaten Serperior through setup, such as Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Crustle always wins with Rock Blast

Team Options
========

  • Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X, Porygon-Z, (Half of those Pokemon don't adequately deal with Porygon-Z) Greninja, and trickier matchups like Tapu Lele (Gyarados, Fini and Primarina don't threaten Lele) and Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone.
  • Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, Genesect, Mega Gardevoir, but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja, whose Ice Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and other Dragonite variants that could play the roll Choice Scarf Dragonite provides. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water- and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

  • Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z, which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, but also allows Serperior to boost its Speed with Leech Seed and bypass a faster Taunt user, letting it combat Choice Scarf Haxorus and Jirachi more easily.
  • Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move users, like Tapu Lele, and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed.

**Substitute Bypassers Sound Based Damage**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it.

Grass types, that Leech Seed is useless against. Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[, ], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
 
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Ginger Princess

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:bw/Serperior:
[OVERVIEW]

  • Serperior plays the role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1.
  • If Serperior can seed its opponent first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Magearna, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense.
  • This is further compounded by Serperior's usage of Protect and Substitute, to play mind games and fish out potentially devastating single use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y.
  • The usual weakness of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like Kee Berry Mew, stall Deoxys-S (Deoxys is still faster than you and can spam Amnesia) and Mega Sableye.
  • Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to; faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: Leech Seed Offense
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 184 HP / 72 Def / 20 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

  • Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to itself, allowing Serperior to beat anything that it can outspeed and land a Leech Seed on, alongside other Pokemon like Mega Altaria (What are you trying to say here?)
  • Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option, which will double Serperior's Special Attack after each usage. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, like Mega Altaria, Mew, and Mega Slowbro
  • Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users, or provide an extra layer of defense when a Pokemon chooses to
  • Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-Create from Choice Band Victini
  • Taunt can be potentially used to beat back prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up, who can potentially threaten Serperior even after they have been hit by Leech Seed with setup options.

Set Details
========

  • 184 HP and 72 Def allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp.
  • 232 Speed lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon, like Jumpluff. find a more relevant example, that Serperior can actually reliably beat. Mega Metagross, or even Choice Band Archeops.
  • 20 Special Defense gives Serperior a better chance with playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants ->how so? Does it let it survive any hits specifically?
  • Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm, as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that moves like Rock Tomb, Bulldoze, Icy Wind, and Confide actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Mega Altaria, and Type: Null, who rely on these moves to gain the upper hand.
  • Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely.

Usage Tips
========

  • If your opponent is slower than you, and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you with a powerful Z move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed.
  • After an opponent is seeded, simply use Protect and Substitute in succession to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health
  • If an opponent can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn, or Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior can survive used to break Serperior's Substitute.
  • If an opponent Taunts or If the opponent Taunts, you don't have a choice lol recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like Mega Altaria and bulky Mega Gyarados.
  • If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, in order to prevent being afflicted by the condition. give some examples of pokemon that may do this
  • Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however.
  • Against setup Pokemon who can potentially threaten Serperior through setup, such as Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Crustle always wins with Rock Blast

Team Options
========

  • Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X, Porygon-Z, (Half of those Pokemon don't adequately deal with Porygon-Z) Greninja, and trickier matchups like Tapu Lele (Gyarados, Fini and Primarina don't threaten Lele) and Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone.
  • Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, Genesect, Mega Gardevoir, but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja, whose Ice Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and other Dragonite variants that could play the roll Choice Scarf Dragonite provides. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water- and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

  • Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z, which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, but also allows Serperior to boost its Speed with Leech Seed and bypass a faster Taunt user, letting it combat Choice Scarf Haxorus and Jirachi more easily.
  • Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move users, like Tapu Lele, and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed.

**Substitute Bypassers Sound Based Damage**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it.

Grass types, that Leech Seed is useless against. Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[, ], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
Implemented. this good for 1/3?
 

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Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, and the added protection lost with removing Protect will doom matchups against Pokemon like Mega Altaria. unless you mean return altaria, mirror coat should actually work better in this matchup
Some matchups, like against Kartana, will be favorable. how so?
msg me on disc if theres any other issues.
otherwise, good job
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:bw/Serperior:
[OVERVIEW]

  • Serperior plays the role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1.
  • If Serperior can seed its opponent first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Magearna you wouldn't be seeding this first, replace with something you would, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense.
  • This is further compounded by Serperior's usage of Protect and Substitute, to play mind games and fish out potentially devastating single use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y.
  • The usual weakness of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like Kee Berry Mew while you do win this matchup, you win it by eventually pp stalling mew's roost down, rather than being capable of overwhelming mew with leaf storm and Mega Sableye.
  • Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to; faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: Leech Seed Offense
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 184 HP / 72 Def / 20 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

  • Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to itself, allowing Serperior to beat anything that it can outspeed and land a Leech Seed on, like Magearna same as above and Garchomp.
  • Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option, which will double Serperior's Special Attack after each usage. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, like Mega Altaria, Mew same as above, and Mega Slowbro
  • Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users.
  • Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-Create from Choice Band Victini
  • Taunt can be potentially used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

  • 184 HP and 72 Def allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp.
  • 232 Speed lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon, like Mega Metagross
  • 20 Special Defense gives Serperior a better chance with playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants, by giving it better odds to live hyper offensive Psychic after a Substitute.
  • Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm, as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, who rely on these moves to gain the upper hand.
  • Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely.

Usage Tips
========

  • If your opponent is slower than you, and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you with a powerful Z move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed.
  • After an opponent is seeded, simply use Protect and Substitute in succession to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health
  • If an opponent can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn, or Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior can survive.
  • If an opponent recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like Mega Altaria.
  • If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, in order to prevent being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey.
  • Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however.
  • Against setup Pokemon who can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly.

Team Options
========

  • Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier matchups like Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone.
  • Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, Genesect, Mega Gardevoir not a reliable scarfnite win. multiscale + burn means you have to fish for flinches OR they could just outright roll for an OHKO with hyper beam. Replace with pz or something, but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja, whose Ice Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and other Dragonite variants that could play the roll Choice Scarf Dragonite provides. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water- and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

  • Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z, which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, but also allows Serperior to boost its Speed with Leech Seed and bypass a faster Taunt user, letting it combat Choice Scarf Haxorus and Jirachi more easily. um, z-seed restores stat drops my dude-
  • Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around with with physical attacks.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move users, like Tapu Lele, and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed.

**Substitute Bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it.

**Grass types**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage, and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon, like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn.

**Taunt users**: I know getting around taunt with leaf storm was one of your focal points, but you're still getting bopped/checked by the likes of Gyarados, Heatran, Mawile, Mega Aggron, and Leftovers Whimsicott

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[Chickenpie2, 305552], [Osra, 239997], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

pretty simple fixes, shouldn't need a double check after implementation unless you pull another z-seed stunt-
2/3 c:
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Ginger Princess

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:bw/Serperior:
[OVERVIEW]

  • Serperior plays the role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1.
  • If Serperior can seed its opponent first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Magearna you wouldn't be seeding this first, replace with something you would, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense.
  • This is further compounded by Serperior's usage of Protect and Substitute, to play mind games and fish out potentially devastating single use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y.
  • The usual weakness of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like Kee Berry Mew while you do win this matchup, you win it by eventually pp stalling mew's roost down, rather than being capable of overwhelming mew with leaf storm and Mega Sableye.
  • Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to; faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: Leech Seed Offense
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 184 HP / 72 Def / 20 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

  • Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to itself, allowing Serperior to beat anything that it can outspeed and land a Leech Seed on, like Magearna same as above and Garchomp.
  • Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option, which will double Serperior's Special Attack after each usage. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, like Mega Altaria, Mew same as above, and Mega Slowbro
  • Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users.
  • Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-Create from Choice Band Victini
  • Taunt can be potentially used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

  • 184 HP and 72 Def allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp.
  • 232 Speed lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon, like Mega Metagross
  • 20 Special Defense gives Serperior a better chance with playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants, by giving it better odds to live hyper offensive Psychic after a Substitute.
  • Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm, as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, who rely on these moves to gain the upper hand.
  • Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely.

Usage Tips
========

  • If your opponent is slower than you, and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you with a powerful Z move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed.
  • After an opponent is seeded, simply use Protect and Substitute in succession to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health
  • If an opponent can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn, or Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior can survive.
  • If an opponent recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like Mega Altaria.
  • If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, in order to prevent being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey.
  • Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however.
  • Against setup Pokemon who can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly.

Team Options
========

  • Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier matchups like Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone.
  • Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, Genesect, Mega Gardevoir not a reliable scarfnite win. multiscale + burn means you have to fish for flinches OR they could just outright roll for an OHKO with hyper beam. Replace with pz or something, but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja, whose Ice Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and other Dragonite variants that could play the roll Choice Scarf Dragonite provides. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water- and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

  • Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z, which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, but also allows Serperior to boost its Speed with Leech Seed and bypass a faster Taunt user, letting it combat Choice Scarf Haxorus and Jirachi more easily. um, z-seed restores stat drops my dude-
  • Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around with with physical attacks.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move users, like Tapu Lele, and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed.

**Substitute Bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it.

**Grass types**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage, and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon, like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn.

**Taunt users**: I know getting around taunt with leaf storm was one of your focal points, but you're still getting bopped/checked by the likes of Gyarados, Heatran, Mawile, Mega Aggron, and Leftovers Whimsicott

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[Chickenpie2, 305552], [Osra, 239997], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

pretty simple fixes, shouldn't need a double check after implementation unless you pull another z-seed stunt-
2/3 c:
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implemented, added the mega gyara usage point you mentioned, alongside mentioning to always sub for magearna till after a fleur cannon
 
youre smart enough to figure out what im saying
:bw/Serperior:
[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its opponent first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further compounded by Serperior's usage of Protect and Substitute, to play mind games and fish out potentially devastating single use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weakness of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to; faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: Leech Seed Offense
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe or 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to itself, allowing Serperior to beat anything that it can outspeed, live a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, serp can land a seed on char but can still lose like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option, which will double Serperior's Special Attack after each successful usage. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, like Mega Altaria and Mega Slowbro. Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-Create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can be potentially used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

184 HP and 72 Def allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp. 232 Speed lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon, like Mega Metagross. 20 Special Defense gives Serperior a better chance with playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants, by giving it better odds to live hyper offensive maybe clarify exactly what this is Psychic after a Substitute, although this can be put into speed in order to gain a positive matchup on Mega Lucario, if required. Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm, as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, who rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely.
talk about the other set of evs

Usage Tips
========

If your opponent is slower than you, and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you with a powerful Z move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After an opponent is seeded, simply use Protect and Substitute in succession to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If an opponent can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn, or Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case its running the niche set of offensive Fairium. Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z move followed up by Fleur Cannon, or if they don't break your substitute on a turn. If an opponent recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, in order to prevent being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon who can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior, if the wrong set is predicted. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed at +1 while failing to do enough damage without boosts. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave you open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, you will want to Leech Seed turn one, and then use Leaf Storm, protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP. change char y mentions but only for one set of evs


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier matchups like Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect, but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and other Dragonite variants that could play the roll Choice Scarf Dragonite provides, in the case of Greninja. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water- and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z, which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, alongside provide slightly less need to predict concerning Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around with with physical attacks.

you mentioned taunt in moveset but nowhere else, add it to OO


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move users, like Tapu Lele, and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed.

**Substitute Bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it. combined with fire blast it should be able to deal with serp assuming it can win some 50/50s

**Grass types**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage, and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon, like Mega Venusaur, Leftovers Whimsicott, what and Ferrothorn.

**Taunt users who resist Grass**: While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt Users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that can do the combination of Taunt Serperior, resist Leaf Storm, and threaten Serperior offensive will be able to take Serperior down. This includes the likes of Heatran, Taunt Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[Chickenpie2, 305552], [Osra, 239997], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
 

Ginger Princess

Girl moding so hard rn
is a Site Content Manager Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Community Contributor Alumnusis a Top Contributor Alumnus
youre smart enough to figure out what im saying
:bw/Serperior:
[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its opponent first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further compounded by Serperior's usage of Protect and Substitute, to play mind games and fish out potentially devastating single use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weakness of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to; faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: Leech Seed Offense
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe or 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to itself, allowing Serperior to beat anything that it can outspeed, live a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, serp can land a seed on char but can still lose like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option, which will double Serperior's Special Attack after each successful usage. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, like Mega Altaria and Mega Slowbro. Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-Create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can be potentially used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

184 HP and 72 Def allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp. 232 Speed lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon, like Mega Metagross. 20 Special Defense gives Serperior a better chance with playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants, by giving it better odds to live hyper offensive maybe clarify exactly what this is Psychic after a Substitute, although this can be put into speed in order to gain a positive matchup on Mega Lucario, if required. Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm, as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, who rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely.
talk about the other set of evs

Usage Tips
========

If your opponent is slower than you, and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you with a powerful Z move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After an opponent is seeded, simply use Protect and Substitute in succession to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If an opponent can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn, or Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case its running the niche set of offensive Fairium. Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z move followed up by Fleur Cannon, or if they don't break your substitute on a turn. If an opponent recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, in order to prevent being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon who can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior, if the wrong set is predicted. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed at +1 while failing to do enough damage without boosts. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave you open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, you will want to Leech Seed turn one, and then use Leaf Storm, protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP. change char y mentions but only for one set of evs


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier matchups like Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect, but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and other Dragonite variants that could play the roll Choice Scarf Dragonite provides, in the case of Greninja. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water- and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z, which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, alongside provide slightly less need to predict concerning Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around with with physical attacks.

you mentioned taunt in moveset but nowhere else, add it to OO


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move users, like Tapu Lele, and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed.

**Substitute Bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it. combined with fire blast it should be able to deal with serp assuming it can win some 50/50s

**Grass types**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage, and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon, like Mega Venusaur, Leftovers Whimsicott, what and Ferrothorn.

**Taunt users who resist Grass**: While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt Users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that can do the combination of Taunt Serperior, resist Leaf Storm, and threaten Serperior offensive will be able to take Serperior down. This includes the likes of Heatran, Taunt Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

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[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the simultaneous role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its opponent first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster muscle ("muster" means to gather, as in to muster up my courage; if you prefer another word to muscle that is fine too) past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further compounded augmented (compounding has a negative connotation, but since this analysis is about Serperior i think it's better to use a word with a positive connotation) by Serperior's usage use of Protect and Substitute, (RC) to play mind games and fish out potentially devastating single use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weaknesses of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior (use em dashes and remove the spaces around the dashes); thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who that attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to over fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to;: (change to colon) faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths (love this expression haha) like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: SubSeed Breaker
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to for itself, allowing Serperior to beat anything that it can outspeed, live a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option STAB move, (it's the only STAB option provided on the set) which will double boost (technically, it doesn't double Serperior's SpA on the second and third use, so this is more accurate) Serperior's Special Attack after each successful usage use. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, (RC) like Mega Slowbro and most Mega Altaria. Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming opposing Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-Create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can also be potentially (again, a technicality; it's not "potential" because it can already be chucked onto the set now) used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

248 HP and 24 Def EVs allow allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp, as well as letting Serperior live an Air Slash from non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and 50/50 it. 232 Speed EVs let lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon, like Mega Metagross. The 4 Special Defense EVs are leftovers, giving Serperior a better chance for playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants, (RC) by giving it better odds to live maximum Special Attack Psychic after a Substitute. Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm, as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, who which rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely. 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe can also be run if you need to outspeed a few niche Pokemon mons, specifically Mega Lucario, while also speed Speed tying with opposing Serperior for better odds in the ditto mirror matchup. These EVs also maintain the Garchomp matchup.


Usage Tips
========

If your opponent is slower than you, and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you with a powerful Z move Z-Move (add hyphen) or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After an opponent is seeded, simply use Protect and Substitute in succession to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If an opponent can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon-Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn, or using Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case its it is running the niche set of offensive Fairium Fairium-Z. Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z move followed up by Fleur Cannon, or if they don't break your substitute on a turn. If an opponent recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like most Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, (RC) in order to prevent avoid being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items item Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute on turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon whothat can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior, (RC) if the wrong set is predicted. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed at +1 after a Dragon Dance boost (was a bit unclear whether the +1 belongs to Serperior or Mega Gyarados) while failing to do enough damage without boosts itself. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave you Serperior open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, you Serperior will want to use Leech Seed on turn one, and then use Leaf Storm, protecting Protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP.


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier matchups like against Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon teammates, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, most Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect, but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and, in the case of Greninja, other Dragonite variants that could play the roll role that Choice Scarf Dragonite provides, in the case of Greninja. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water-, (AC) and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium-Z (add hyphen), which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, alongside provide slightly less need to predict concerning while needing to predict slightly less around Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around it with with physical attacks.

you mentioned taunt in moveset but nowhere else, add it to OO - oops, think you forgot to write this up


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective super effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time turn it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything foe (changed this due to fit the next sentence's structure better) that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them on the next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks single attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, (RC) and offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who which can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt it attempts to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move Z-Move users, like Tapu Lele, (RC) and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed clear.

**Substitute Bypassers bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior it. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir (make a mention of sound moves maybe?). Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it, unless Mega Altaria not only runs Fire Blast and a more specially offensive set than what is recommended, but also predicts 4 four 50/50s correctly.

**Grass-types (add hyphen)**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage, (RC) and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon, (RC) like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn. This excludes Kartana, which Serperior can easily break through. (personally think it'd be nice for a short explanation why Kartana is different from the others)

**Taunt users who that resist Grass**: While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt Users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that can do perform the combination of Taunting Serperior, resisting Leaf Storm, and threatening Serperior offensively will be able to take Serperior it down. This includes the likes of Heatran, Taunt Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[Chickenpie2, 305552], [Osra, 239997], [Freddy Kyogre, 321529]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
 
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[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the simultaneous role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its opponent foe first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster muscle ("muster" means to gather, as in to muster up my courage; if you prefer another word to muscle that is fine too) past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further compounded augmented (compounding has a negative connotation, but since this analysis is about Serperior i think it's better to use a word with a positive connotation) by Serperior's usage use of Protect and Substitute, (RC) to play mind games and fish out bait (don't think fish out works the way you're using it here) potentially devastating single-use (AH) moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weaknesses of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior (use em dashes and remove the spaces around the dashes); thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who that attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to over fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to;: (change to colon) faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths (love this expression haha) like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: SubSeed Breaker
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to for itself, allowing Serperior it to beat anything that it can outspeed, live take a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option STAB move, (it's the only STAB option provided on the set) (okay but no reason to change "STAB option") which will double boost (technically, it doesn't double Serperior's SpA on the second and third use, so this is more accurate) Serperior's Special Attack after each successful usage use. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, (RC) like Mega Slowbro and most Mega Altaria. Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming opposing Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can also be potentially (again, a technicality; it's not "potential" because it can already be chucked onto the set now) used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

248 HP and 24 Defense EVs allow allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp (RC) as well as letting (should actually be "letting" as long as the comma is there still, for my change remove it outright though) Serperior live an Air Slash from non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and 50/50 force mind games with it. 232 Speed EVs let lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon(RC) like Mega Metagross. The 4 Special Defense EVs are leftovers, giving Serperior a better chance for playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants, (RC) by giving it better odds to live take maximum Special Attack Psychic after a Substitute. Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm (RC) as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat-dropping (AH) moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, who which rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely. 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe can also be run if you need to outspeed a few niche Pokemon mons, specifically Mega Lucario, while also speed Speed tying with opposing Serperior for better odds in the ditto mirror matchup. These EVs also maintain the Garchomp matchup.


Usage Tips
========

If your opponent the opposing Pokemon is slower than you, Serperior and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you it with a powerful Z move Z-Move (add hyphen) or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After an opponent a foe is seeded, simply use alternate Protect and Substitute in succession (cycle not sequence) to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If an opponent a foe can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z-Move (AH) or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon-Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying being KOed, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn (RC) or using Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior it can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case its it is running the niche set of offensive Fairium Fairium Z. (no hyphen) Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z-Move (AH) followed up by Fleur Cannon (RC) or if they don't break your Serperior's Substitute on a turn. If an opponent opposing Pokemon recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like most Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, (RC) in order to prevent avoid being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items item Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute on turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon whothat can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle they will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior, (RC) if it predicts the wrong set is predicted. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed at +1 after a Dragon Dance boost (was a bit unclear whether the +1 belongs to Serperior or Mega Gyarados) while failing to do enough damage without boosts itself. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave you Serperior open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, you Serperior will want to use Leech Seed on turn one (RC) and then use Leaf Storm, protecting Protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP.


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier matchups like against Aegislash. ("trickier foes like" to keep wording consistent) In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon teammates, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, most Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect (RC) but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and, in the case of Greninja, other Dragonite variants that could play the roll role that Choice Scarf Dragonite provides, in the case of Greninja. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water-, (AC) and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium-Z (add hyphen), (no hyphen) which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, alongside provide slightly less need to predict concerning while needing to predict slightly less around ("but also slighly lessen prediction around" to complete the construction) Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around it with with physical attacks.

you mentioned taunt in moveset but nowhere else, add it to OO - oops, think you forgot to write this up


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective super effective Damage**: (n title case) Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time turn it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything foe (changed this due to fit the next sentence's structure better) (i don't see it tbh, "anything" is simply the "it" counterpart of "anyone") that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them on the next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks single attacks**: (same, etc) Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, (RC) and offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who which can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt it attempts to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move Z-Move users, like Tapu Lele, (RC) and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed clear.

**Substitute Bypassers bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior it. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir (make a mention of sound moves maybe?). (yea) Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it, unless Mega Altaria not only runs Fire Blast and a more specially offensive set than what is recommended, but also predicts 4 four 50/50s ("wins four successive mind games") correctly.

**Grass-types (add hyphen)**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage, (RC) and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon, (RC) like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn. This excludes Kartana, which Serperior can easily break through. (personally think it'd be nice for a short explanation why Kartana is different from the others)

**Taunt users who that resist Grass**: (also title case) While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt Users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that can do perform the combination of Taunting Serperior, resisting Leaf Storm, and threatening Serperior offensively ("have the combination of access to Taunt, a resistance to Leaf Storm, and the ability to threaten etc etc") will be able to take Serperior it down. This includes These include the likes of Heatran, Taunt Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
- Quality checked by: [[Chickenpie2, 305552], [Osra, 239997], [Freddy Kyogre, 321529]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
 

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[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the simultaneous role of simultaneously a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its opponent foe first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muster muscle ("muster" means to gather, as in to muster up my courage; if you prefer another word to muscle that is fine too) past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further compounded augmented (compounding has a negative connotation, but since this analysis is about Serperior i think it's better to use a word with a positive connotation) by Serperior's usage use of Protect and Substitute, (RC) to play mind games and fish out bait (don't think fish out works the way you're using it here) potentially devastating single-use (AH) moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weaknesses of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott - that being Taunt and recovery moves - do not necessarily apply to Serperior (use em dashes and remove the spaces around the dashes); thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon who that attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds to over fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to;: (change to colon) faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths (love this expression haha) like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: SubSeed Breaker
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent to for itself, allowing Serperior it to beat anything that it can outspeed, live take a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main STAB option STAB move, (it's the only STAB option provided on the set) (okay but no reason to change "STAB option") which will double boost (technically, it doesn't double Serperior's SpA on the second and third use, so this is more accurate) Serperior's Special Attack after each successful usage use. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users, (RC) like Mega Slowbro and most Mega Altaria. Substitute is used to block against attacks from oncoming opposing Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can also be potentially (again, a technicality; it's not "potential" because it can already be chucked onto the set now) used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

248 HP and 24 Defense EVs allow allows Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp (RC) as well as letting (should actually be "letting" as long as the comma is there still, for my change remove it outright though) Serperior live an Air Slash from non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and 50/50 force mind games with it. 232 Speed EVs let lets Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon(RC) like Mega Metagross. The 4 Special Defense EVs are leftovers, giving Serperior a better chance for playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants, (RC) by giving it better odds to live take maximum Special Attack Psychic after a Substitute. Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm (RC) as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat-dropping (AH) moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, who which rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely. 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe can also be run if you need to outspeed a few niche Pokemon mons, specifically Mega Lucario, while also speed Speed tying with opposing Serperior for better odds in the ditto mirror matchup. These EVs also maintain the Garchomp matchup.


Usage Tips
========

If your opponent the opposing Pokemon is slower than you, Serperior and your opponent cannot immediately threaten you it with a powerful Z move Z-Move (add hyphen) or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After an opponent a foe is seeded, simply use alternate Protect and Substitute in succession (cycle not sequence) to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If an opponent a foe can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z-Move (AH) or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon-Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without dying being KOed, by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn (RC) or using Leech Seeding on a weaker hit that Serperior it can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case its it is running the niche set of offensive Fairium Fairium Z. (no hyphen) Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z-Move (AH) followed up by Fleur Cannon (RC) or if they don't break your Serperior's Substitute on a turn. If an opponent opposing Pokemon recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like most Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seeding, (RC) in order to prevent avoid being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice Items item Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute on turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon whothat can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not Crustle they will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior, (RC) if it predicts the wrong set is predicted. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed at +1 after a Dragon Dance boost (was a bit unclear whether the +1 belongs to Serperior or Mega Gyarados) while failing to do enough damage without boosts itself. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave you Serperior open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, you Serperior will want to use Leech Seed on turn one (RC) and then use Leaf Storm, protecting Protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP.


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate back in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier matchups like against Aegislash. ("trickier foes like" to keep wording consistent) In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these Pokemon teammates, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, most Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect (RC) but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and, in the case of Greninja, other Dragonite variants that could play the roll role that Choice Scarf Dragonite provides, in the case of Greninja. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water-, (AC) and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium-Z (add hyphen), (no hyphen) which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, alongside provide slightly less need to predict concerning while needing to predict slightly less around ("but also slighly lessen prediction around" to complete the construction) Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around it with with physical attacks.

you mentioned taunt in moveset but nowhere else, add it to OO - oops, think you forgot to write this up


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong Super Effective super effective Damage**: (n title case) Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one time turn it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything foe (changed this due to fit the next sentence's structure better) (i don't see it tbh, "anything" is simply the "it" counterpart of "anyone") that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them on the next turn.

**Powerful Single Attacks single attacks**: (same, etc) Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z, (RC) and offensive Deoxys-S, Pokemon who which can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as they attempt it attempts to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z move Z-Move users, like Tapu Lele, (RC) and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be guaranteed clear.

**Substitute Bypassers bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO Serperior it. This includes powerful threats like Meloetta, Genesect, and Mega Gardevoir (make a mention of sound moves maybe?). (yea) Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it, unless Mega Altaria not only runs Fire Blast and a more specially offensive set than what is recommended, but also predicts 4 four 50/50s ("wins four successive mind games") correctly.

**Grass-types (add hyphen)**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage, (RC) and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon, (RC) like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn. This excludes Kartana, which Serperior can easily break through. (personally think it'd be nice for a short explanation why Kartana is different from the others)

**Taunt users who that resist Grass**: (also title case) While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt Users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that can do perform the combination of Taunting Serperior, resisting Leaf Storm, and threatening Serperior offensively ("have the combination of access to Taunt, a resistance to Leaf Storm, and the ability to threaten etc etc") will be able to take Serperior it down. This includes These include the likes of Heatran, Taunt Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

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- Written by: [[Alakazam, 276708]]
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[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the simultaneous role of a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its foe first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muscle past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further augmented by Serperior's use of Protect and Substitute to play mind games and bait potentially devastating single-use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weaknesses of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott—Taunt and recovery moves—do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon that attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds over fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to: faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: SubSeed Breaker
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent for itself, allowing it to beat anything that it can outspeed, take a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's STAB option which will boost Serperior's its Special Attack after each successful use. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users like Mega Slowbro and most Mega Altaria. (this correction brought to you by a solid 3 minutes of Googling to confirm I wasn't crazy and Serp doesn't actually have a Mega) Substitute is used to block attacks from opposing Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can also be used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

248 HP and 24 Defense EVs allow Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp as well as an Air Slash from non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and force mind games with it. 232 Speed EVs let Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon like Mega Metagross. The 4 Special Defense EVs are leftovers, giving Serperior a better chance for playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants by giving it better odds to take maximum Special Attack Psychic after a Substitute. (do these 4 particular EVs *really* matter in this particular case? I'm not very familiar with 1v1 but this sentence is a little confusing and I think it might be better to leave it said that the EVs are "leftovers that help against Pokemon such as Tapu Lele" rather than giving too many details) Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat-dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, which rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP recovery alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely. 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe can also be run if you need to outspeed a few niche Pokemon, specifically Mega Lucario, while also Speed tying with opposing Serperior for better odds in the mirror matchup. These EVs also maintain the Garchomp matchup.


Usage Tips
========

If the opposing Pokemon is slower than Serperior and cannot immediately threaten it with a powerful Z-Move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After a foe is seeded, simply alternate Protect and Substitute to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If a foe can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z-Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon-Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without being KOed, (remove comma) by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn or by using Leech Seed on a weaker hit that it can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case it is running the niche set of offensive Fairium Z. Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z-Move followed up by Fleur Cannon or if they don't break Serperior's Substitute on a turn. If an opposing Pokemon recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like most Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seed in order to avoid being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice item Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute on turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon that can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not they will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior if it predicts the wrong set. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed after a Dragon Dance boost while failing to do enough damage without boosts itself. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave Serperior open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, Serperior will want to use Leech Seed on turn one and then use Leaf Storm, Protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP.


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini, and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier foes like Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these teammates, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, most Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and, in the case of Greninja, other Dragonite variants that could play the role that Choice Scarf Dragonite provides. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water-, and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini, and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, but also slighly lessen prediction around Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around it with with physical attacks.


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong super effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one turn it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them on the next turn.

**Powerful single attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z and offensive Deoxys-S, which can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as it attempts to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z-Move users, like Tapu Lele and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be clear.

**Substitute bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO it. This includes powerful sound move users like Uproar Meloetta, Bug Buzz Genesect, and Hyper Voice Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it, unless Mega Altaria not only runs Fire Blast and a more specially offensive set than what is recommended, and but also wins four successive mind games correctly. ("wins" implies they're correct already, and i believe "but" is the word that follows the conditional "not only" over "and")

**Grass-types**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn. This excludes Kartana, which Serperior can easily break through with Leaf Storm.

**Taunt users that resist Grass**: While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that have the combination of access to Taunt, a resistance to Leaf Storm, and offensive presence will be able to take it down. These include the likes of Heatran, Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

Couldn't find much wrong with this, but I did make a fairly important comment under Set Details that I think should be addressed in some way. GP 2/2.

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[OVERVIEW]

Serperior plays the simultaneous role of a Leech Seed staller and an offensive presence in 1v1. If Serperior can seed its foe first and survive a slower move, it will almost always win the matchup. This will allow it to beat Pokemon that prove unable to muscle past its respectable bulk in one turn, primarily Pokemon like Garchomp, Mega Metagross, and Magnezone, proving excellent in striking down bulky offense. This is further augmented by Serperior's use of Protect and Substitute to play mind games and bait potentially devastating single-use moves from Tapu Lele, Aegislash, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y. The usual weaknesses of fellow Leech Seed stallers, such as Jumpluff and Whimsicott—Taunt and recovery moves—do not necessarily apply to Serperior; thanks to its powerful Leaf Storm and Contrary, Serperior can muscle past Pokemon that attempt to mitigate Leech Seed's usefulness, allowing it to strike down Pokemon like bulky Mega Gyarados and Mega Sableye. Unfortunately, despite these advantages it holds over fellow Leech Seed stallers, it still falls prey to strategies that almost all Leech Seed stallers will lose to: faster, powerful attackers and sound-based moves. Common Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will find no trouble in OHKOing Serperior, and noisy behemoths like Meloetta, Mega Gardevoir, and Kommo-o will bypass its Substitute and hit it where it hurts.

[SET]
name: SubSeed Breaker
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 4 SpD / 232 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed allows Serperior to sap away health from its opponent for itself, allowing it to beat anything that it can outspeed, take a hit from, and land a Leech Seed on, like Avalugg and Garchomp. Leaf Storm is Serperior's STAB option which will boost Serperior's its Special Attack after each successful use. This allows Mega Serperior to beat back recovery users like Mega Slowbro and most Mega Altaria. (this correction brought to you by a solid 3 minutes of Googling to confirm I wasn't crazy and Serp doesn't actually have a Mega) Substitute is used to block attacks from opposing Pokemon, as well as give an extra layer of protection against Toxic users. Protect allows Serperior to avoid taking damage without losing a portion of its HP, unlike Substitute. When used with Substitute, it can also be used to PP stall moves with 8 PP, such as V-create from Choice Band Victini. Taunt can also be used to prevent Pokemon such as Crustle and offensive Mega Gyarados from setting up.

Set Details
========

248 HP and 24 Defense EVs allow Serperior to tank an Outrage from Choice Band Garchomp as well as an Air Slash from non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and force mind games with it. 232 Speed EVs let Serperior outspeed base 110 Speed Pokemon like Mega Metagross. The 4 Special Defense EVs are leftovers, giving Serperior a better chance for playing mind games against Tapu Lele variants by giving it better odds to take maximum Special Attack Psychic after a Substitute. (do these 4 particular EVs *really* matter in this particular case? I'm not very familiar with 1v1 but this sentence is a little confusing and I think it might be better to leave it said that the EVs are "leftovers that help against Pokemon such as Tapu Lele" rather than giving too many details) Contrary is run in order to consistently boost the power of Leaf Storm as well as give much better odds against Metal Sound users like Aegislash. It also means that stat-dropping moves like Rock Tomb, Confide, and Metal Sound actually help Serperior instead, shutting down foes like Sawk, Type: Null, and Aegislash, which rely on these moves to gain the upper hand. Leftovers is run in order to give Serperior more HP recovery alongside Leech Seed, which, combined with Protect and Substitute, lets Serperior stall out slower Pokemon hit by Leech Seed indefinitely. 184 HP / 72 Def / 252 Spe can also be run if you need to outspeed a few niche Pokemon, specifically Mega Lucario, while also Speed tying with opposing Serperior for better odds in the mirror matchup. These EVs also maintain the Garchomp matchup.


Usage Tips
========

If the opposing Pokemon is slower than Serperior and cannot immediately threaten it with a powerful Z-Move or recharge move, you should use Leech Seed. After a foe is seeded, simply alternate Protect and Substitute to eventually sap away all of an opponent's health. If a foe can mortally threaten Serperior with a powerful Z-Move or recharge move, such as Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Z-Conversion Porygon-Z, and non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y, Serperior will need to play mind games to get in a position where it can it can land a Leech Seed without being KOed, (remove comma) by using Substitute on the predicted Z-Move or Blast Burn or by using Leech Seed on a weaker hit that it can survive. Against Magearna, you should always use Substitute first, in case it is running the niche set of offensive Fairium Z. Only use Leech Seed after they use their Z-Move followed up by Fleur Cannon or if they don't break Serperior's Substitute on a turn. If an opposing Pokemon recovers while moving last, you should use Leaf Storm the following turn, which will quickly snowball into damage that exceeds the health they are recovering. This is useful against bulkier threats like most Mega Altaria. If your opponent utilizes Toxic, use Substitute before Leech Seed in order to avoid being afflicted by the condition, such as against Porygon2 or Chansey. Against Fly users, specifically Choice item Landorus-T and Dragonite, use Substitute on turn one as well, which will allow you to avoid the potentially deadly damage and safely Leech Seed them. Serperior will have to play around a potential Outrage from Choice Scarf Dragonite, however. Against setup Pokemon that can potentially threaten Serperior, such as non-Rock Blast Crustle, Serperior will need to predict whether or not they will attack or use Shell Smash, and act accordingly. Mega Gyarados can potentially beat Serperior if it predicts the wrong set. If it's running a hyper offensive set, the winning play is to Leaf Storm twice, not bothering to Leech Seed, as Serperior can be 2HKOed after a Dragon Dance boost while failing to do enough damage without boosts itself. Using Leech Seed and Substitute turns one and two could leave Serperior open to a potential Taunt. Against bulky Mega Gyarados, Serperior will want to use Leech Seed on turn one and then use Leaf Storm, Protecting when they use Outrage to gain back HP.


Team Options
========

Generally bulky Pokemon will be Serperior's greatest form of aid, as they will naturally be able to tank the hits coming off of extremely powerful Pokemon that Serperior cannot handle and retaliate in kind. Pokemon such as Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, Meloetta, Tapu Fini, and Primarina can generally threaten some highly offensive Pokemon, including Mega Charizard X and Y, Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Greninja, and trickier foes like Aegislash. In return, Serperior threatens other bulky offense Pokemon that generally threaten these teammates, such as opposing Mega Gyarados, Magearna, most Mega Altaria, and opposing Magnezone. Choice Scarf Dragonite is a particularly good choice as well, as it provides not only the power and bulk to beat powerful threats to Serperior like Meloetta, Kommo-o, and Genesect but also the Speed necessary to outspeed and OHKO Greninja and Porygon-Z, whose Ice Beam and Hyper Beam would normally beat other bulky Dragon-types and, in the case of Greninja, other Dragonite variants that could play the role that Choice Scarf Dragonite provides. In return, Serperior beats back Fairy-, Water-, and Steel-type Pokemon that are not threatened by Dragonite, like non-Taunt Mega Mawile, Mega Metagross, Tapu Fini, and Primarina.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Serperior can choose to run Grassium Z which will not only allow it to serve as a more potent offensive threat against Pokemon like Kartana and Tapu Bulu, but also slighly lessen prediction around Taunt Mega Gyarados. Mirror Coat is a good option to bait out special attackers like Kommo-o, but this only works once, as they can simply work around it with with physical attacks.


Checks and Counters
===================

**Strong super effective Damage**: Serperior needs at least one turn to set up Leech Seed, and in that one turn it is vulnerable to being OHKOed by basically anything that can hit it for super effective damage. This includes Pokemon like Mega Charizard X, Greninja, and Incineroar. Overheat users like Mew and Heatran will have to watch out for Substitute, which can bring their Special Attack down by two stages and allow Serperior to Leech Seed them on the next turn.

**Powerful single attacks**: Serperior always has to bear in mind the threat posed by Pokemon like Porygon-Z and offensive Deoxys-S, which can launch off a single powerful attack and OHKO Serperior as it attempts to set up Leech Seed. Serperior can play mind games with slower powerful Z-Move users, like Tapu Lele and Aegislash, or slower recharge move users, like non-Flame Charge Mega Charizard Y and Mega Pinsir, but their matchups will never be clear.

**Substitute bypassers**: Slower Pokemon that are not blocked from attacking Serperior by Substitute will easily be able to face off against Serperior and OHKO or 2HKO it. This includes powerful sound move users like Uproar Meloetta, Bug Buzz Genesect, and Hyper Voice Mega Gardevoir. Hoopa-U can also bypass Substitute protection with its signature Hyperspace Fury. It should be noted that Mega Altaria, a prominent Hyper Voice user, will not be able to damage Serperior fast enough with Hyper Voice to seriously threaten it, unless Mega Altaria not only runs Fire Blast and a more specially offensive set than what is recommended, and but also wins four successive mind games correctly. ("wins" implies they're correct already, and i believe "but" is the word that follows the conditional "not only" over "and")

**Grass-types**: Serperior is heavily reliant on Leech Seed chip damage and will thus have a terrible time against other Grass-type Pokemon like Mega Venusaur and Ferrothorn. This excludes Kartana, which Serperior can easily break through with Leaf Storm.

**Taunt users that resist Grass**: While Serperior does have an excellent matchup against Taunt users like Mew and Tapu Fini, Pokemon that have the combination of access to Taunt, a resistance to Leaf Storm, and offensive presence will be able to take it down. These include the likes of Heatran, Mega Mawile, and Mega Aggron.

Couldn't find much wrong with this, but I did make a fairly important comment under Set Details that I think should be addressed in some way. GP 2/2.

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