CAP 1 Smogon's First "Create a Pokemon": Poll 5, part II

[CipherPol]

Actually the chance to defrost is about ~23%, IIRC.

 

[Yoko Rains]

Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying, I guess it would be too overpowered to have a move like that.

 

[peach [old]]

I like how people are acting like Hyra's spread can't take a hit while MwL's can.

 

[Drakhun]

Hyra's spread can't take any sort of hit, MwL's set will at least be able to survive random priority moves thanks to having more than 4 hit points. They both still can't take a hit forth crap, and I don't really like either, but MwL's is the lesser of two evils.

 

[Lawman]

Yeah. Both are great spreads, but Neither would take a hit worth a damn anyways, so it is basically this:

x/125/x/105/x/123
VS
x/116/x/114/x/121

Who wins?

Both are good though ;>_>

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

Hyra set~ "Liek OMG, higher attack and speed. Me pick that one"

MwL set~ "Yay, highest total stat, must means it's fucking deadly. I chose this"

^ That is the vibe I get upon reading people comments on this poll.

 

[Drakhun]

As for a move, how about this:

Snow Drift
ACC: 100
Power: 10+
Type: Ice
PP: 10
Special

The pokemon rides a wave of ice and snow across the battle field.

Special: This attack hits the opponent with all entry hazards on your side, then clears them.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

^ Sounds more like some nifty ability to me beside he still have to come in and use that attack to get rid of SR/Spikes/TS

Defrost
Category: Other
Type: Ice
Power: --
Acc: --
PP: 10
Effect: Heals 50% of health, remove ice typing for one turn.

Edit: Better name, Refreeze?

 

[darkie]

^ Sounds more like some nifty ability to me beside he still have to come in and use that attack to get rid of SR/Spikes/TS

Defrost
Category: Other
Type: Ice
Power: --
Acc: --
PP: 10
Effect: Heals 50% of health, remove ice typing for one turn.

I would think that Defrosting an Ice Pokemon would actually hurt 50% rather than heal 50%.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

I would think that Defrosting an Ice Pokemon would actually hurt 50% rather than heal 50%.

I blame the fact I couldn't think of a better name for an ice type Recover, that and it's 2:48 in the morning and I drank like three sodas today.

 

[junior]

Exactly, but people are going to pick it anyway ("omg 555 total"). I like the first one better for reasons I listed in my other post.

Meh, we shouldn't have total base stats on the poll. I reckon some people just skipped over the stats and straight to the total. =\


As for the name, what about Hail Absorb? *shrug* Just a suggestion.

 

[eric the espeon]

i vote MWL's lesser of two evels (stupid spelling)
Hyra your logic that haveing a low base HP will protect you from SR is crazy it will take half of it off and it dosent mater how little base you put it will still take half off.

 

[TaiwaneseDude]

Not fond of these two, because they look like we're trying too hard to make sure this guy outspeeds certain Pokemon.. which is fine, but still..

I went w/ the 555 btw.

 

[Deck Knight]

Voted MwL's because I spent half of the last topic defending it >_> And it was my second choice (hey, I have pride in my stuff, shoot me)

New Moves:

From other topic:

Ice Breaker
Type: Ice
Physical
Power: 100
Acc: 90%
PP: 10
Effect: Destroys Reflect/Light Screen.

Stench Blast
Type: Bug
Other
Power: N/A
Acc: 80%
PP: 20
Effect: Lowers opponents defense and special defense one stage.

Hive Mind
Type: Bug
Other
Power: N/A
Acc: 100%
PP: 20
Effect: Imprison effect.

 

[EconBiscuit]

^ Sounds more like some nifty ability to me beside he still have to come in and use that attack to get rid of SR/Spikes/TS

Defrost
Category: Other
Type: Ice
Power: --
Acc: --
PP: 10
Effect: Heals 50% of health, remove ice typing for one turn.

Edit: Better name, Refreeze?

Someone's trying to steal my Ideas :P

 

[I am Gengar]

^ Sounds more like some nifty ability to me beside he still have to come in and use that attack to get rid of SR/Spikes/TS

Defrost
Category: Other
Type: Ice
Power: --
Acc: --
PP: 10
Effect: Heals 50% of health, remove ice typing for one turn.

Edit: Better name, Refreeze?

What about antifreeze since it would remove ice type?

 

[Cooper]

Category: Other
Type: Ice
Power: --
Acc: --
PP: 10
Effect: Heals 50% of health, remove ice typing for one turn.

I'm actually a big fan of this. 50% is a big plus, and the Ice typing doesn't add any resistances. We'd be looking at a Roost that doesn't hurt your typing.

And I did not vote for MwL's because it has the highest BST! I voted for it because I'd trade two points in speed and nine points in Attack for higher Sp. Attack and 23 HP anyday.

 

[Selphimist]

How about these moves?

Black Ice
Category: Other
Type: Ice
Power: --
Acc: --
PP: 10
Effect: Badly poisons the target Pokemon.

Ice type Toxic? Well, most Pokemon can learn Toxic already, but Steel Pokemon can still get affected by this move, since it isn't Poison type.

Friction
Category: Other
Type: Electric
Power: 80
Acc: --
PP: 5
Effect: The Pokemon causes massive amounts of friction in its body by rubbing against the ground, causing damage to the Pokemon that attacks it with an electric jolt. Priority move. The Pokemon cannot be KO'd by any attacks when using Friction. This move will work until the Pokemon has less than 50% health.

This is how it works:

Pokemon used Friction!

Enemy Pokemon used Tackle!

Pokemon took x% damage

Enemy Pokemon was shocked by Friction! (x% damage)

I think it makes this move both crappy and broken. >.>; Whoops. Oh well, just throwing thoughts out there.

 

[eric the espeon]

How about these moves?

Black Ice
Category: Other
Type: Ice
Power: --
Acc: --
PP: 10
Effect: Badly poisons the target Pokemon.

Ice type Toxic? Well, most Pokemon can learn Toxic already, but Steel Pokemon can still get affected by this move, since it isn't Poison type.

black ice is slipery not poisonous

Friction
Category: Other
Type: Electric
Power: 80
Acc: --
PP: 5
Effect: The Pokemon causes massive amounts of friction in its body by rubbing against the ground, causing damage to the Pokemon that attacks it with an electric jolt. Priority move. The Pokemon cannot be KO'd by any attacks when using Friction. This move will work until the Pokemon has less than 50% health.

This is how it works:

Pokemon used Friction!

Enemy Pokemon used Tackle!

Pokemon took x% damage

Enemy Pokemon was shocked by Friction! (x% damage)

I think it makes this move both crappy and broken. >.>; Whoops. Oh well, just throwing thoughts out there.
yes its broken

 

[tennisace]

i voted for MwL's spread not for the total but because with everyone carrying a fire move for steel types, it needs to be able to at least survive one SE attack.

as for the moves, couldn't you give it attack order, defense order, and heal order (the exclusive moves vespiquen has)?
that would give it an attack, a defense/sp. def boost (which this pokemon sorely needs) and a recovery move (again this pokemon needs one to survive)

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

i voted for MwL's spread not for the total but because with everyone carrying a fire move for steel types, it needs to be able to at least survive one SE attack.

Fire is x4, it isn't going to be survive any fire attack from no one execpt from a lv1. Chimchar or something.

A recovery sounds nice and all but can this thing survive a hit long enough to restore health and still be a threat to whatever it's facing?

 

[EconBiscuit]

Yes I know it's not create a move, but blame Gothic Togekiss. Anyways 555 set ftw

Name: Cuccoon
Type: Bug
Support
Power: N/A
Acc: N/A
PP: (Unsure of Roost PP)
Effect: Regains 50% of Health and removes Bug Type for turn of use.

Like an Bug type version of Roost.

Metamorphisise
Type: Bug
Support
Power: N/A
Acc.: 60%
Changes Bug Typing to resist the type of last attack

Always believed Bug's should have these abilities

Other move, which I've been given some thought, Which is like Marmite (either love it or hate it)

Name: Unsure
Type: Bug
Support
Power: N/A
Acc.: N/A
Effect: Splits the pokemon into 2 seperate entities at half stats. Only works in Double Battle

Bugs have always been an adaptive organism to any situation, I believe these moves show this.

None of my moves were spoken of, and I want them too ¬.¬ *Acts like a 5 yr old*

 

[Hyra]

I called it.

Well, now to wait for the poll to time out.

 

[Goodbar]

I honestly think there should be no new moves its created, no non-legendary has his own unique move, save for vespiqueen, whose moves aren't even unique, and pikachu (I think its the only one?). So lets just make it realistic

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

Yes I know it's not create a move, but blame Gothic Togekiss. Anyways 555 set ftw

Name: Cuccoon
Type: Bug
Support
Power: N/A
Acc: N/A
PP: (Unsure of Roost PP)
Effect: Regains 50% of Health and removes Bug Type for turn of use.

Like an Bug type version of Roost.

Removing of Ice type is somewhat better since it provide no redeeming resistance said Ice.

Metamorphisise
Type: Bug
Support
Power: N/A
Acc.: 60%
Changes Bug Typing to resist the type of last attack

Always believed Bug's should have these abilities

Please explain how this would work and it's benefits

Other move, which I've been given some thought, Which is like Marmite (either love it or hate it)

Name: Unsure
Type: Bug
Support
Power: N/A
Acc.: N/A
Effect: Splits the pokemon into 2 seperate entities at half stats. Only works in Double Battle

Bugs have always been an adaptive organism to any situation, I believe these moves show this.

Hm....seem too gimmickly.