Freeroamer
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I'm glad this thread seems to be moving away from banning Blissey, I think going in with the mentality of "we just gotta nerf stall and it doesn't matter where it is afterwards" (which is what a Blissey ban represents to me) is the wrong one and could actually be harmful in itself to the tier in the long run. I don't really know if this holds true everywhere, but in the majority of the tiers I've played in my time on Smogon stall is the style that gets picked vs inexperienced players in tours and that farms the ladder because it takes knowledge to prep for and accurate play to break down, and I actually think that's something worth preserving if possible because it shows there is an inherent skill in being able to beat it consistently. What pushes SM UU stall over the edge for me however is the crazy amount of variety that can be encountered which ranges from the two most frequently seen stall builds of Blissey/Alomomola/Quagsire/Gligar + Mega Aerodactyl/Articuno or Nihilego/Mega Altaria built by Pearl and pif respectively, the stall teams with different options (notably Pyukumuku) that pif showed in his first post itt as well as other options such as the Rotom-H stall w/out Unaware that Adaam has infrequently used to good success. It's very possible with all of these variations being viable and justifiable picks that even if you do attempt to make preparations to beat stall, you can easily run into one of the variations of stall that completely blank how you planned to make progress and the game is a foregone conclusion if played out accurately by the stall player. From my own experiences building and playing SM, there are very few countermeasures you can pack which go any decent length to avoiding this conundrum, especially in a tier that is so constrained in the builder due to the presence of the likes of Scizor and Latias.
Following on from that, I'd like to offer my support for a vote on Quagsire too. I find this to be the most appealing option presented for addressing stall because it significantly cuts down on the number of viable routes that stall can take in the builder as well as opening up some more options that can harass various stall builds, while definitely keeping it as a viable pick in the metagame. esche did a really nice job in covering the things that become more threatening and how they fit into builds commonly used within the metagame, and there are even more such as Rockium Z Terrakion which suddenly becomes an actual threat to stall again instead of being forced into Life Orb or Fight Z if it wants to break through Quagsire. This can already be seen in some of pif's teams and in Adaam’s team where the absence of Quagsire forces picks such as Doublade/Nidoqueen in order to handle SD bull satisfactorily, which in turn feeds into reducing the variety of stalls to prepare for within the tier. I think these kinds of small changes are what is required to bring stall in SM UU into a healthier spot where it's strong but more reasonable to be prepared for.
Following on from that, I'd like to offer my support for a vote on Quagsire too. I find this to be the most appealing option presented for addressing stall because it significantly cuts down on the number of viable routes that stall can take in the builder as well as opening up some more options that can harass various stall builds, while definitely keeping it as a viable pick in the metagame. esche did a really nice job in covering the things that become more threatening and how they fit into builds commonly used within the metagame, and there are even more such as Rockium Z Terrakion which suddenly becomes an actual threat to stall again instead of being forced into Life Orb or Fight Z if it wants to break through Quagsire. This can already be seen in some of pif's teams and in Adaam’s team where the absence of Quagsire forces picks such as Doublade/Nidoqueen in order to handle SD bull satisfactorily, which in turn feeds into reducing the variety of stalls to prepare for within the tier. I think these kinds of small changes are what is required to bring stall in SM UU into a healthier spot where it's strong but more reasonable to be prepared for.
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