I remember it taking a day or less.
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]
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I feel like Im crazy when I see Zamazenta listed among the most problematic stuff at the time being. It has some nice coverage moves but it doesnt cover everything, should rarely sweep/has no real utility to pair with it and you can check both with generic tier staples it feels like. What am I missing here. I like the mon(s) but they are clearly far away from the S tier for me.
Very thankful Regieleki is gone - it does confirm that the "we will release broken stuff in OU but it will still be able to be quickbanned in a short amount of time" is true.
Now to wait for Chien-Pao and it's defense halving ability that shouldn't exist in a 405 speed/372 Atk Dark/Ice Pokémon to be gone.
Now to wait for Chien-Pao and it's defense halving ability that shouldn't exist in a 405 speed/372 Atk Dark/Ice Pokémon to be gone.
+1, 6 months of non-metagame, refusing to even suspect garg, not re-test tera and now a quickban over banning magearna and the 2 zama just because they dediced to let them OU
banning tera instantly nerfs everything, without it elecki lose the ice coverage and is instantly walled by every ground mon/new goodra form
Just played against shift gear magearna for the first time. I take back everything I said in previous post - that needs to be gone.
Idg why you are all ganging on finch when most of those policies taken are actually done by a collective entity. Check out other council members since they actually gave a reason why their vote was as is, and honestly i do agree. It's non consequential to release some of these mons and have them banned on the next day, you don't lose that much
They've already tackled as to why they couldn't ban Tera yet so there is no point in debating that for now really, but all is to say, that they're acting based on the collective opinion. Don't shoot on the messenger.
They've already tackled as to why they couldn't ban Tera yet so there is no point in debating that for now really, but all is to say, that they're acting based on the collective opinion. Don't shoot on the messenger.
I'm gonna be real here; I would honestly like to revisit some of the Ubers even despite their bad track records in OU. This is because this is the first generation that has truly made moves 'legacy' such that a Pokemon won't have access to ALL of their tools at once, and I am certain there are Ubers mons that are more heavily impacted by the loss of some of these moves than others. Heck, Landorus-I and Genesect are such prime examples; Landorus-I gained Nasty Plot sure but losing Rock Polish is almost assuredly impacting it in some way as well. Genesect meanwhile lost its crucial gen 5 event moves in Extreme Speed and Shift Gear and even Rock Polish became legacy, suddenly leaving it with no way to speed control the opponent in an unprecedented manner.
I do appreciate the council's testing policy atm, but I do wish that future tests for mons also take Gen 9's new precedent of "legacy moves" into account.
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Garganacl didn’t get suspected because no one who actually performs in tournaments really wanted it. The Pokémon was not broken.
And how is it Finch’s specific fault that the metagame sucks? We’re the ones playing the format game freak does not design most of their content around, we have to accept that sometimes things will be bad for a bit.
Hey finch. Is magearna being looked at for a quick ban?
Yes, as I said in the ban post for Regieleki, we have assessed numerous other Pokemon as problematic and will be acting on them within the next couple of days. This is very much one of them. I expect it to be voted on soon.
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The problem with magearna is you look for a mon to hard counter it and there's like two. Clod gets slammed by stored power if mag has enough boosts, so you are resorted to skeledirge or quag.
Cheers.
The problem with magearna is you look for a mon to hard counter it and there's like two. Clod gets slammed by stored power if mag has enough boosts, so you are resorted to skeledirge or quag.
Because you're trying to see it as a "breaker" when it's not. It's not supposed to break walls. It's an extremely centralising threat that can be played in a lot of versatile ways and can be a deadly wincon with body press + ID. Basically its OP speed control.
It's that kinda offensive presence with insane bulk and speed. Such a fat speed control mon almost invalidates most offensive mons and offensive counterplay. Even stuff like booster valiant's Moonblast is far from an OHKO. Add tera threat upon that.
Plus, the ID Bpress set steam rolls offensive and defensive mons alike. And with ID as your boosting move, you can spam it to set up since the defense boosts let you set up even more. It's like SD on roids.
You're forced to run a select few defensive checks to not get rolled over like skeledirge, defensive zapdos, and toxapex, which goes to show how broken both the dogs are. In theory, I could run SpDef Clodsire or AV Treads and laugh at Regieleki all day, but as the recent ban suggested, didn't make Eleki any less crazy broken.
Sorry if this isn't allowed, but are you allowed to say the list of ban considered mon, cos that would be very interesting to look at.
Garg got saved by the timing multiple times in the most rapidly evolving meta We’ve seen
I voted ban on Garganacl months before you guys clamored for a suspect…And then the only reason why it never got a suspect was because the community failed to support it sufficiently in the surveys — you guys had ample opportunity, but it never was supported sufficiently.
I fail to see how this reflects negatively on my competence.
Seconding this. Both the examples losing any sort of speed boosting/priority really changes the game. And since it would be suspect, we can just vote if they still remain broken.
I doubt he meant it as a criticism of your work, probably just poor wording on his part, it reads more like a simple misunderstanding of the process of getting a mon suspected
Damn. Walking wake is so good in this landorus, heatran, zapdos meta.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1874953737
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1874953737
Since tomorrow we are getting the usage stats form may, what do you expect from them? I think Regileki alone might have saved Treads from dropping just with yesterday. 
Someone correct if I'm wrong, but aren't the usage stats being delayed until a bit later cos of home.Since tomorrow we are getting the usage stats form may, what do you expect from them? I think Regileki alone might have saved Treads from dropping just with yesterday.
where did you hear this
ursaluna isnt bannable. its just calyrex ice but for ou
I don't know, I just remember hearing it. Could have been from pokeaimmd? Don't really know
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