finch you can't do this to me man
now breloom has even less of a niche in OU
literally 1984
now breloom has even less of a niche in OU
literally 1984
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]
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So what was all that about "Midrai"?
Beat the allegations so badly, caused an entire mechanic to go poof!
Beat the allegations so badly, caused an entire mechanic to go poof!
Don't worry, once Gholdengo and Tera get banned you can use it for SubPunch shenanigans
I don't really post or read the OU forum much, just play on my own time so I apologize if this is a dumb question.
I saw that a score of 3.7/5 was used to determine if sleep would be a quick ban decision or suspect test, if I understood that right. Is there a hard/set-in-stone logic to when something is deemed problematic enough to quick ban v. suspect test? I feel like I've seen cases this generation where higher scores haven't resulted in this happening, so I find myself confused and curious about the process. please don't dunk on me for asking
I saw that a score of 3.7/5 was used to determine if sleep would be a quick ban decision or suspect test, if I understood that right. Is there a hard/set-in-stone logic to when something is deemed problematic enough to quick ban v. suspect test? I feel like I've seen cases this generation where higher scores haven't resulted in this happening, so I find myself confused and curious about the process. please don't dunk on me for asking
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Good point, doesn't guarantee you a free attack in the same way yawn did but will still be pretty useful. Might have to get a hazard setter tho lol to maximise effectiveness
I’ve noticed the running theme this generation is anything that can reliably generate free turns is going to end up broken. Defenses are spread way too thing and offenses set up way too fast.
With that in mind, it was only a matter of time before people started gambling with sleep paralyzation or confusion to get said Free turns.
With that in mind, it was only a matter of time before people started gambling with sleep paralyzation or confusion to get said Free turns.
Just saying Breloom never really needed Spore in Gen 9. The Choice Band sets don't run Spore and some of the Loaded Dice set don't always run Spore sometimes they run different 3rd moves after Mach Punch and Bullet Seed like Rock Tomb, Aerial Ace, and Close Combat.
If it helps, think of it as the council saying that they're going to do something, and then asking players to either agree with them (high vote), or tell them not to do it (low vote). Getting a high vote meant that the voterbase was happy with what was suggested.
One of the best decisions all gen.
From my understanding, high score just means it's put to a vote among council, and that decides on the course of action. There has been things put up for vote that got a suspect instead. It depends on how they view the issue and whether they've developed their stances on whatever is put to vote.
if sneasler had still been legal
would dire claw be allowed?
would dire claw be allowed?
Sleep moves are an integral part of the pokemon experience, even if they're unbalanced. Really sucks that the mainstream games' online battle features are so trash because otherwise I'd go back to playing them now lol. I'm not in support of this sleep clause change at all, but I'm probably going to keep playing smogon for the time being.
Anyway, hypnosis isn't even its best set. Trick Scarf is the best set for
honestly and what makes it pretty good. Good riddance to the hypnosis lead fishingthat may be true, but have you considered that Darkrai is going to fall off now, meaning one of breloom's best matchups is dead now.
I wasn't joking about hating sleep ban tho, amoonguss is dead for crimes darkrai and ival committed.
Funny replay I have of Ampharos KOing 4 different Pokémon in the same battle. I didn’t mean to use Stealth Rocks with Iron Treads near the end.
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9ou-2040863567
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9ou-2040863567
smeargle killed darkrai and darkrai killed smeargle lol
The clause only affects moves that directly inflict sleep to the opponent, so Dire Claw Smeargle is still legal (and Meloetta gets to keep Relic Song).
neither can survive while the other... puts things to sleep...?
KamenOH
formerly DynamaxBestMeta
Who invited Venusaur, Alolatales, and Hisuigant
sleep powder, hypnosis, sleep powder?
invited two of em.
Well, Darkrai is back to being the...
Ting-Lu, Kingambit, Samurott-H, Weavile, Roaring Moon, Meowscarada
Arguably the 7th best dark type in OU
Ting-Lu, Kingambit, Samurott-H, Weavile, Roaring Moon, Meowscarada
Arguably the 7th best dark type in OU
KamenOH
formerly DynamaxBestMeta
Seven fucking dark types, and what, 8 dragons?
As much as we like to tease Darkrai for getting unbanned after much contention only to not even be top 5 of its own type, it’s kind of crazy how insane Dark-type is this gen, huh? 8 of em (currently) in OU and we STILL had 3 non cover-legend Dark types we had to ban.
Tbf it is a lot like Gen 7 Fairies where the numbers are slightly inflated by the introduction of a powerful quartet.
Cool now we can ban para because
Because the council wanted to ban sleep and not the other things that were higher.