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Sword & Shield **Official news only** DLC Crown Tundra 22nd October
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And Electivire.
I noticed the bargain guy is not actually fully tied to the time. You can find out "tomorrow's" bargain, and it will always be there until you next visit him regardless of when you do it (after the next day).
Geodude itself was not but Graveler was.
I can see Articuno being Ice/Psychic with Levitate but I have a hard time seeing the other 2 lose their flying type. They are birds after all...
Well unless all 3 get Levitate as ability.
Flying/Psychic, Flying/Fighting and Flying/Dark however creates a pretty interesting trio if you think about it.
Galarian Farfetch'd and Sirfetch'd lack a Flying-type, and Decidueye loses it after evolving from Dartrix.
(They are the only non-Flying-type Pokémon in the Flying egg group, BTW)
Is there any confirmation that the 3 birds are actually Galarian versions of Zapdos, Moltres & Articuno and not new Pokemon? I know it seems like a dumb question but just making absolutely sure. I believe I saw a translation for alternate names for the 3 somewhere though it didn't seem legit. I don't remember it being directly stated in an official source.
No direct confirmation, but it's difficult to see what they could be otherwise. Megas are long gone, they're far too different to be Gigantamax and they don't feel like evolutions/pre-evolutions either.
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Gigantamax Venusaur and Blastoise to me are the the most compelling evidence that at least certain parts of these DLCs were directly conceived as responses to fan criticisms, in their case to complaints about Charizard receiving special attention. Now this is admittedly very subjective, but when I compare these designs to Gigantamax Charizard I get this feeling not of less effort, but of a greater struggle to create something unique compared to their Mega Evolutions and less inspiration/creative drive to do so, as if they were something that was never originally planned and they were kinda "forced" to make it happen. Again, I know this is a bold assumption to make off of purely subjective thoughts, and I don't expect anyone to change their minds off this, but that's the vibe I personally get.
I think we may be getting more lore on Xerneas & Yveltal in the DLC. The new Regis have dot patterns in the shape of an X and a Y, so there may be some sort of connection there or it could just be a coincidence. The only thing that throws me off is one of the new Regis looking like an Electric type and I don't know how that could be related to Xerneas. The Dragon looking one resembles Yveltal in it's color scheme though.
Ehhhh....not too sure about that one. To me its similar to Mega Blaziken coming to XY a few years or so before swamp and sceptile got theirs.
There aren't really a large amount of interesting ways to make a design for "Blastoise+/Venusaur+". On one hand, you could blame the megas for sticking too close to the originals, on the other it shows that the designs aren't set up to really pair with their unique moves (hypothetical example: if Venusaur's grass moves grant sun [for chlorophyll], it could have a different flower based on a RL plant that generates heat for extra pollinator appeal [side note: these usually smell awful])
Articun oseems to be floating and, if it is Psychic, that'd be an easy in for Levitate
Zapdos seems to specifically be a roadrunner and not really shown conventionally flying. I know our other roadrunner is Flying type but also everyone in the world has been making going "but whY????" over that. I don't think it would even get levitate.
Moltres is the only one who doesn't have a direct "out" to the flying aspect (it seems to literally be shown flying in its artwork) but it's also still clearly on fire. If the other two are ice/psychic & electric/fighting, though, I can't see them dropping fire. Just silently ignore it or represent it with one of those goofy "its the same ability but we gave it a different name" thing they keep doing.
So speaking of these legendaries...I've been thinking about the Crown Tundra's pokedex. First off it seems reasonable to believe that the three muskeeters and Regigigas are still in there, right? The former 3 are the only ones not even hinted at being in the dens but we know they're already in the game and Regigigas being intentionally left out feels like set up for a new Galarian Form. And meanwhile the UBs are probably off in their own category, we'll just leave them off for now.
But if so that kind of cuts into the Tundra's "100+ returning" pokedex by a large margin, huh? That'd be about 47-ish (I might've miscounted somewhere) pokemon and a fair chunk of those are probably meant to be "post game" or maybe just late game for the tundra since they're thrown into the depths of the new co-op mode (the birds & regi likely have special overworld stuff with the temples & trees).
I think...I'm going to be optimistic and say that there will be approximately 100 (probably a little less) normal pokemon accompanying them, since they'd probably want you to explore the standard OW tundra and see all kinds of returning pokemon just like in the isle of armor. Who knows, maybe it'll be 100 normals + 47 returning legends + 3 new ones (Regivolt, Regidrake, Calyrex) for a nice smooth 150 in the tundra?
Due to the announcement of the Expansion Pass I have updated the Galar Checklist with all the returning Pokemon shown in the Direct and the promotional materials:
Color code:
- Green: Pokemon is present in the Galar Pokedex,
- Dark Green: Pokemon has a Galarian Form,
- Blue: Pokemon is present in the game code, but absent from the Galar Pokedex,
- Yellow: Pokemon will be added to the game in the Expansion,
- Orange: Expansion Pokemon that has a Galarian Form.
Isle of Armor:
- Psyduck, Golduck,
- Slowbro-G,
- Magnemite, Magneton, Magnezone,
- Happiny, Chansey, Blissey,
- Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra,
- Azurill, Marill, Azumarill,
- Zorua, Zoroark,
- Larvesta, Volcarona,
- Fletchling, Fletchinder, Talonflame,
- Dedenne,
- Rockruff, Lycanroc.
Crown of Tundra:
- Nidoran-F, Nidorina, Nidoqueen,
- Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking,
- Zubat, Golbat, Crobat,
- Slowking-G,
- Elekid, Electabuzz, Electivire,
- Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein,
- Beldum, Metang, Metagross,
- Gible, Gabite, Garchomp,
- Cryogonal,
- Amaura, Aurous,
+ all showcased Legendaries.
I have decided to mark Nidoran-F’s line as confirmed even though we have not seen any of its members in the Direct. However, we have seen Nidorino and I am absolutely convinced that his female counterpart is going to appear alongside him in the Crown of Tundra Expansion. Magby and Tyrantrum lines are likely to make an appearance as well, due to the presence of their counterparts (Elekid and Aurous) in the promotional materials.
It is quite interesting that the Direct showcased almost all non-Mythical, non-UB Legendaries. The only ones absent are Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion and Regigigas. Curiously, the Swords of Justice are already coded into the base game. The presence of new Legendary Golems indicates that GF is planning to do something special with the Trio (or rather Quintet) Master and I sure hope it includes getting rid of Slow Start…
Intrestingly, Klara’s ribbon appears to be based on some alternate form of Dustox:
Additionally, Avery’s emblem shows two Twistedspoons. These things make it pretty likely that Wurmple and Abra lines are going to appear in the Expansion as well (probably Isle of Armor).
Color code:
- Green: Pokemon is present in the Galar Pokedex,
- Dark Green: Pokemon has a Galarian Form,
- Blue: Pokemon is present in the game code, but absent from the Galar Pokedex,
- Yellow: Pokemon will be added to the game in the Expansion,
- Orange: Expansion Pokemon that has a Galarian Form.
Isle of Armor:
- Psyduck, Golduck,
- Slowbro-G,
- Magnemite, Magneton, Magnezone,
- Happiny, Chansey, Blissey,
- Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra,
- Azurill, Marill, Azumarill,
- Zorua, Zoroark,
- Larvesta, Volcarona,
- Fletchling, Fletchinder, Talonflame,
- Dedenne,
- Rockruff, Lycanroc.
Crown of Tundra:
- Nidoran-F, Nidorina, Nidoqueen,
- Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking,
- Zubat, Golbat, Crobat,
- Slowking-G,
- Elekid, Electabuzz, Electivire,
- Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein,
- Beldum, Metang, Metagross,
- Gible, Gabite, Garchomp,
- Cryogonal,
- Amaura, Aurous,
+ all showcased Legendaries.
I have decided to mark Nidoran-F’s line as confirmed even though we have not seen any of its members in the Direct. However, we have seen Nidorino and I am absolutely convinced that his female counterpart is going to appear alongside him in the Crown of Tundra Expansion. Magby and Tyrantrum lines are likely to make an appearance as well, due to the presence of their counterparts (Elekid and Aurous) in the promotional materials.
It is quite interesting that the Direct showcased almost all non-Mythical, non-UB Legendaries. The only ones absent are Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion and Regigigas. Curiously, the Swords of Justice are already coded into the base game. The presence of new Legendary Golems indicates that GF is planning to do something special with the Trio (or rather Quintet) Master and I sure hope it includes getting rid of Slow Start…
Intrestingly, Klara’s ribbon appears to be based on some alternate form of Dustox:
Additionally, Avery’s emblem shows two Twistedspoons. These things make it pretty likely that Wurmple and Abra lines are going to appear in the Expansion as well (probably Isle of Armor).
I can imagine Regigigas getting a useful ability instead of Slow Start as a hidden ability unlocked by certain conditions.
The meme option is Speed Boost because of the obvious inversion of Slow Start, but even if the ability is only modestly useful, its statline is perfectly serviceable and it has a workable movepool except for losing reliable STAB.
The meme option is Speed Boost because of the obvious inversion of Slow Start, but even if the ability is only modestly useful, its statline is perfectly serviceable and it has a workable movepool except for losing reliable STAB.
I honestly kind of want a Regigigas-G whose ability is like...your stats are shit but improve for each different REgi on your team. There's 5 normals + Gigas now, go wild with it I say
At this point, even Telepathy would be a nice option.
Out of curiosity, what could be reasonably done to Landorus Therian that would make it less centralizing?
If you're the girl. Though obviously the boy gets to dress as Bede... no? Oh, right, Hop would probably be the obvious choice... also no? Leon? Piers? Okay, then who are the boys getting to dress as... ROSE?! Are the girls getting Oleana? No... that's such a strange match-up.
$30 bucks better than another $60. Like already this $30 content feels like it's more substantial then what USUM provided from SM which was a full price 3DS game. And there's always a chance they could throw in some free DLC stuff down the line.
Also, technically don't got to buy the DLC for the +200 Pokemon, that's a free download. If you have them from older games can just transfer them up with HOME and if you don't can trade another player (though without a GTS probably best to sent up a trade with someone here or on Reddit).
I have a feeling for this gen and the next we're going to have a "give and take" going on. How far can GF push what and how much new content they can add that the player will accept to be added as DLC or would be angry wasn't included in the main game (or given as free DLC). Because I can easily see GF becoming a "push the game out early as we can patch it back in later" developer, if not from their own decision pushed by Pokemon Company wanting the new Pokemon ready to become merchandise.
That said, wouldn't mind some extra save slots...
"And rise the specter of the time Konami sold extra save slots?"
The expansion is already $30 regardless so I don't think asking for them to throw in extra save slots is too much.
Well, since the expansions are replacement for third versions, it's more like the "complete" experience went for a price of two games to the price of one and a half games. And even if they do a second round of expansions it would be back to a price of two games. However if they do a third round of expansions that's when you can start to argue the downside of DLC compared to third versions.
BUT a potential of just having DLC means they could always add in more story bits, it just depends on how ambitious GF wants to be. Like they can add in some extra side stories concerning all the Gym Leaders. They could add in a batch of side quests like they had in USUM all over the place. They could even add in big story scenarios like with the post game episodes if they wanted to. Now main issue with this would it be something you got to pay for or a nice free DLC gift.
If they ever add back in Ride Pokemon it better be an option.
Probably, but you'll also likely be able join Den explorations from the other version so have access to the version exclusive Legendaries you don't have that way (like how you can join Raids for version exclusive Gigantamax).
As for GF lying about not adding back in old Pokemon... honestly I can see it going either way. Either them adding Pokemon via the DLC was a recent decision seeing how badly Dexit was OR Masuda running his mouth. I'm actually thinking it's the latter, I would be very surprised if this wasn't the plan all along to add more Pokemon via the expansions but they didn't want to spoil it. But instead of having a PR team carefully write a statement that'll both inform players of the dex cut but assure the other Pokemon aren't forgotten while tiptoeing around the expansion plan, they just had Masuda say whatever he wanted and outright lie. I'm now convinced that Masuda is a pathological liar and GF is perfectly fine having everyone know this so they can have him be their mouthpiece so they can hide their future plans.
Then don't buy the expansions. Not buying the expansions is just like not buying a third version.
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Hey, you're right, I did buy USUM which was barely an update to SM.
I say GF owes everyone who bought USUM a free expansion pass!... Fine, half off... $10 off?... Not even $5?...
So, question about Lycanroc: will it's evolution still be version exclusive? Also would we still need a special Rockruff to get Dusk Form?
And it's more then welcome! Gives them extra time to work on the actual next title (which if they do for this generation would be the Sinnoh remakes so maybe 2-3 years, but if next game is the next gen I'd say 4-5 years).
Well the Spheal family may like to have Ice Ball back, though everything else I don't think would be missed that much.
Oh geez, how are they going to work out the complications with it without the Zygarde Cube?
And what about Ultra Necrozma?
Well that's an interesting question, because through DLC they can technically add additional story bits to the plot. Of course, those who already played the game will not see those new elements unless they play the game again. Putting aside whether GF would do it or not (most likely not, to them they probably feel they told the "story" they wanted to tell so everything they do now is post game focused), here's a question for us players: would you play the game again to see an enhanced story?
That's a bit of a stretch. Regi-Electric's color scheme doesn't match Xerneas and Regi-Dragon's dot pattern only looks vaguely like a "Y".
My take: they're not greedy... but their incompetence makes them look it. I don't want to yet have my opinions cross over the "they're doing this just to make more money" line just yet because if that's the case they could have done way more dubious monetization methods and done them earlier.
No, I think them now deciding to do DLC is most likely due to them having to rush the game out so there's a LOT of stuff these DLC expansions have that was meant to be in the base game. If Pokemon Company and Nintendo were breathing down GF's necks as many people want to say they were to get these games out, I could see at some point GF having a crisis meeting where they won't make the deadline if they want to put in everything they have planned so finally decided to bite the DLC bullet. Infact I could very well see this being part of the same meeting where they decided to do Dexit, one easily leads into the other (either they couldn't port every Pokemon as they wanted to which got the DLC discussion going or other factors made them consider DLC and decided to use it as an excuse to make a limited dex).
If I were to make a prediction, I'd say that Kubfu would have a quirk with its movepool that every Level it learns a move it actually gets a choice of two, one which fits into each Style. Like at Level X it learns both Sky Uppercut & Arm Thrust, Level Y learns Sucker Punch & Aqua Jet, & Level Z learns Superpower & Close Combat. Then at a Level, depending on how moves it knows that more fits one style over another, it'll evolve into that Style (Sky Uppercut, Sucker Punch, & Superpower would count toward Single-Strike; Arm Thrust, Aqua Jet, & Close Combat would count toward Rapid-Strike).
Regigigas went on a bender, woke up the next morning seeing it made two new Regis, and tried to hide its accident by shoving them in an abandoned temple in Galar.
Either has each expansion give out a set of Starters from another region (I can see Isle of Armor having the Johto Starters while Crown Tundra having the Sinnoh Starters, maybe include another group just to have them in there) or have a third or fourth expansion that focuses on the Starters and other "rare" Pokemon (maybe like a hidden breeding grounds place).
Maybe Regigigas would have a special Den where you need to have all 5 Regi registered in your Dex in order to have it appear. They did similar ideas for certain Legendaries in the Ultra Space Ride, needing to have some of their members or Legendaries they command before you can challenge them.
For Mythicals, probably going to be added behind the scenes but would need to wait for an Event to get them (aside hacking for them, or someone spoofing a Raid battle with them).
Like with the Starters above, I can see them having a later expansion which focuses on Ultra Wormholes and the Ultra Beasts... WE CAN MAYBE GET SOME NEW ULTRA BEASTS!!! Another idea is maybe having an added mechanic where rarely a Den will actually become an Ultra Wormhole (probably would be an addition to the Crown Tundra as then they can have you exploring their Ultra Space).
Already answered the first two but I'll give my thoughts on them again, maybe even add to them.
1. With the original three Regi covering defensive distributions I see these two ones going a bit more offensive. That said they'd probably still want them to be defensive as well so predicting:
Regi-Electric:
Stats: 80/50/100/150/150/50
Move Variations: Shock Wave (Level 1 & 7), Calm Mind (Level 37), Discharge (Level 43)
Hidden Ability: Volt Absorb
Regi-Dragon:
Stats: 80/150/150/50/100/50
Move Variations: Dual Chop (Level 1 & 7), Bulk Up (Level 37), Dragon Rush (Level 43)
Hidden Ability: Marvel Scale
2. Galarian Articuno I've seen a few good recommendations: Ice/Steel, Ice/Psychic, & Ice/Ghost. However it would need to be given the Levitate Ability as it's losing its Flying-type.
Galarian Zapdos I was set on Electric/Ground but there is a case for Electric/Fighting. Also it's no longer flying so doesn't need to worry about making up for a loss ground immunity.
Galarian Moltres though, I think it'll actually remain Fire/Flying but we're going to see significant changes elsewhere like stats & movepool.
3. Galarian Zapdos, I just want to ride around the Wild Area on its back.
I think it's more that it's far simpler to add in Mega Evolution since the Pokemon doesn't grow 50+ feet tall.
Does it look like what they do now in ORAS?
WAIT, WHAT?! YES! Thank you, GF! Having the only way to get a Gigantamax was by catching them through Raids was a stupid idea, I would gladly do a more complex method (but hopefully not too complex, maybe better word was one that takes a bit more time) than hoping to not only win the Raid but the ONE CHANCE we're given to capture it works and the whole battle wasn't for naught.
How is Smeargle a legacy problem?
Vivillon may not come back for a long time... OR when it does come back they'll give it even MORE forms. A form for every country, the wing pattern based on the national flags! MUAHAHAHAHA!
"That's evil"! It's Pokemon 666 for a reason.
I think they need the following. First, we need a new section of the bag called "Catalogs" which is just a collection of all the item Catalogs (or they can make it a "Key Item" which is nested in the "Item" section). With that done have the following Catalogs:
Plate Catalog (for Arceus's Plate)
Memory Catalog (for Silvally's Memories)
Artifact Catalog (for any other item a Legendary needs to do something like Groudon & Kyogre's Orbs, Shaymin's Gracidea, Genesect's Drives, etc.)
Incense Catalog (for the Incenses)
Evolution Catalog (for any item that specifically only exists to evolve a Pokemon)
Any others?
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Huh? Blue and yellow are definitely Xerneas' primary colours.
Blue and BLACK are Xerneas' primary colors. It's antlers and the detail on it's legs are an off-white/beige, not the rich yellow that is the electric Regi.