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forgot to implement cryo's check
opposite of bop
qc 3/3: dk, pk, subject18
gp 2/2: eyan, cryogyro
[OVERVIEW]
Mega Venusaur's very good bulk allows it to check a plethora of prominent threats in the OU metagame, including Tapu Koko, Keldeo, Battle Bond Greninja pre-transformation, Protean Greninja without Extrasensory, and Tapu Bulu. Its Thick Fat ability and decent defensive typing leave it with only two weaknesses, Psychic and Flying, while giving it resistances to many common types, such as Water and Fairy. Mega Venusaur is surprisingly not very passive, as it possesses a solid Special Attack stat of base 122. Its ability to run either an offensive or defensive set lets it fit on a variety of team archetypes. However, Mega Venusaur faces massive competition from Tangrowth and Amoonguss, both of which perform similar roles and don't need to run Synthesis because they have Regenerator. Also, it takes up a Mega slot, preventing the player from using generally better Mega Evolutions such as Mega Mawile, Mega Medicham, and Mega Scizor. Mega Venusaur is easily worn down by Spikes, Scald burns, and even just powerful attacks, so it finds itself using Synthesis a lot as opposed to attacking, which results in momentum loss and passivity. Finally, it gives a free switch in to certain common Pokemon, such as Autotomize Celesteela, Gengar, and Mega Medicham to an extent, which can spam their powerful STAB moves or set up on Mega Venusaur.
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Giga Drain
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Knock Off / Leech Seed
item: Venusaurite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 88 Def / 156 SpD / 16 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Giga Drain is a STAB move that allows Mega Venusaur to check the Water-types that it is supposed to and recovers HP. Sludge Bomb is a more powerful STAB move that can threaten typical Grass-type checks, such as Mega Charizard X, and can be used to attempt to poison bulkier threats, such as Mega Sableye and Zapdos. Although Synthesis suffers from low PP, it is reliable recovery, which allows Mega Venusaur to check opposing Pokemon throughout the match. Hidden Power Fire pressures Mega Scizor, Mega Mawile, and Magearna, preventing them from setting up on Mega Venusaur, and keeps Ferrothorn from freely setting Spikes up. Knock Off cripples potential switch-ins to Venusaur and Pokemon dependent on their items such as Chansey, Alolan Marowak, Substitute + Coil Zygarde, and Celesteela. Leech Seed is another option to annoy bulkier Pokemon, such as Celesteela and Toxapex, while allowing Venusaur to further recover HP.
Set Details
========
The given EV spread and a Calm nature allow Mega Venusaur to take hits from Protean Greninja, Ash-Greninja, and Tapu Koko while also outspeeding Adamant Mega Mawile. It avoids the 2HKO from pre-transformation Battle Bond Greninja's Choice Specs-boosted Dark Pulse after damage from Stealth Rock and one layer of Spikes while also avoiding the 2HKO from Choice Specs-boosted Extrasensory with no entry hazards up. An EV spread with more Defense and a Bold nature can be used to check Pokemon such as Tapu Bulu and Terrakion more effectively, but only if Ash-Greninja is not an issue for the team. Although neither of Venusaur's initial abilities are very useful, Chlorophyll is preferred in order to allow Venusaur to gain an advantage against teams with Mega Charizard Y.
Usage Tips
========
Pivot Mega Venusaur into Pokemon that it checks, such as Keldeo and Tapu Bulu, so it can threaten them with its STAB moves or recover its HP using Synthesis. Prioritize safely Mega Evolving with Venusaur so it can better pivot into Pokemon with its improved bulk and Thick Fat. While Mega Venusaur can switch into Greninja most of the time, it has a hard time taking Choice Specs-boosted Dark Pulses from Ash-Greninja or Extrasensory from Protean Greninja. If the opponent has a Greninja, play conservatively with Mega Venusaur by scouting for Extrasensory and by using Synthesis.
Team Options
========
This Venusaur set fits better on balanced or defensive teams. Because Mega Venusaur does not have the ability to run Leftovers and does not have Regenerator, entry hazards can force it to use Synthesis more than attacking. As a result, hazard removers such as Zapdos, Tapu Fini, Mew, and Skarmory make good partners. Steel-types such as Jirachi, Celesteela, and Magearna, which can take on the Flying- and Psychic-types that Mega Venusaur does not like to face, make for nice teammates. Additionally, Pokemon that can take on the Fire-types that Mega Venusaur generally likes to avoid, like Landorus-T, Garchomp, and Zygarde, make for good partners. Heatran is a particularly good partner because it takes the Psychic-, Fire-, and Flying-type attacks that Mega Venusaur hates, while Mega Venusaur takes Water-type attacks for it. Fire- and Water-types such as Volcarona and Tapu Fini form a core with Mega Venusaur that has good defensive synergy. Mega Venusaur gives free switches to Gengar and Alolan Marowak, so Pokemon that can take hits from these Ghost-types, such as Tyranitar, make decent partners.
[SET]
name: Offensive Tank
move 1: Giga Drain
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Venusaurite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 232 HP / 92 SpA / 80 SpD / 104 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Giga Drain and Sludge Bomb are Mega Venusaur's main STAB moves; Giga Drain helps recover Venusaur's HP and hits Water- and Ground-types super effectively, while Sludge Bomb can hit the plethora of Fairy-types present in the tier. Synthesis is mandatory for Venusaur so it can recover HP and switch into foes such as Greninja multiple times. Hidden Power Fire rounds out Venusaur's coverage by letting it hit Steel-types, which it would be walled by otherwise; specifically, it is used to pressure Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor.
Set Details
========
The given EV spread is used to outspeed maximum-Speed Jolly Mega Mawile and Adamant Tyranitar while avoiding the 2HKO from pre-transformation Battle Bond Greninja's Choice Specs-boosted Dark Pulse after Stealth Rock damage. 92 Special Attack EVs enable Mega Venusaur's Hidden Power Fire to 2HKO Ferrothron without any prior damage. Chlorophyll is preferred over Overgrow to give Venusaur an advantage against teams with Mega Charizard Y.
Usage Tips
========
When using this set, Mega Venusaur intends to pivot into attacks while hitting back with its powerful STAB moves. Specifically, pivot Mega Venusaur into Pokemon that it checks, such as Keldeo and Tapu Koko, so it can retaliate with Giga Drain or Sludge Bomb or recover its HP with Synthesis. Try to get Venusaur in for free so it can Mega Evolve safely, as it's fairly weak and lacking in bulk pre-Mega Evolution. Due to this set's lower bulk, it is easier to wear it down with entry hazards and repeated attacks, so use Giga Drain and Synthesis to help Venusaur tank more hits throughout the match. Use Hidden Power Fire to pressure the Steel-types that switch into Mega Venusaur; many of them are not prepared to take a Hidden Power Fire from offensive sets. Use Sludge Bomb to pressure bulkier threats, such as Zapdos, by attempting to poison them.
Team Options
========
This set can be one of the best checks to Ash-Greninja for offensive and bulky offensive teams. It can also fit well on balanced teams, acting as a solid check to Water- and Fairy-types. Mega Venusaur appreciates entry hazards being removed from its side of the field, so hazard removers such as Tapu Fini, Mew, and Zapdos make for decent partners. However, it also appreciates Stealth Rock up on the opposing side of the field to cripple switch-ins such as Mega Charizard Y and Alolan Marowak. As a result, Stealth Rock users such as Landorus-T, Garchomp, and Heatran make for good partners. Heatran also has the ability to take Flying-, Psychic-, and Fire-type attacks for Mega Venusaur. Fire- and Water-types such as Tapu Fini and Alolan Marowak form a core with good defensive and offensive synergy when partnered with Mega Venusaur. Finally, Pokemon that appreciate Mega Venusaur's ability to pressure opposing Water-, Grass-, and Fairy-types, such as Ash-Greninja, Keldeo, and Zygarde, make for decent teammates.
[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Sleep Powder can cripple switch-ins to Mega Venusaur and create opportunities for partners to switch in and use a powerful attack or sweep, but generally, the ability to hit Steel-types or remove items is more useful. Earthquake can surprise Heatran and Alolan Marowak, and Hidden Power Ice prevents Zygarde and Flyinium Z Landorus-T from setting up on it but does not hit Steel-types. Life Orb Venusaur is one of the best sweepers on sun teams due to its Chlorophyll ability, but sun is generally a bad team archetype.
Checks and Counters
===================
**Fire-types**: Despite Mega Venusaur's ability, Alolan Marowak, Heatran, and Mega Charizard Y can overpower Venusaur with their STAB moves while switching into its attacks easily.
**Flying-types**: Tornadus-T, Mega Pinsir, and Flyinium Z Landorus-T can threaten to OHKO Mega Venusaur with their powerful STAB moves. However, the former two and many others do not like switching into Sludge Bomb, while the third takes a good chunk of damage from Giga Drain.
**Psychic-types**: Psychic-types like Mega Alakazam, Mega Medicham, and Tapu Lele can OHKO Mega Venusaur with their STAB moves, but many of them do not want to switch into it.
**Chansey**: Mega Venusaur's attacks barely do any damage to Chansey. However, Chansey is crippled by Knock Off and cannot do much back.
**Super Effective Coverage Moves**: Since Mega Venusaur only has Synthesis for recovery, it is easily pressured by coverage moves such as Extrasensory from either Greninja and Tapu Bulu's Zen Headbutt.
opposite of bop
qc 3/3: dk, pk, subject18
gp 2/2: eyan, cryogyro
[OVERVIEW]
Mega Venusaur's very good bulk allows it to check a plethora of prominent threats in the OU metagame, including Tapu Koko, Keldeo, Battle Bond Greninja pre-transformation, Protean Greninja without Extrasensory, and Tapu Bulu. Its Thick Fat ability and decent defensive typing leave it with only two weaknesses, Psychic and Flying, while giving it resistances to many common types, such as Water and Fairy. Mega Venusaur is surprisingly not very passive, as it possesses a solid Special Attack stat of base 122. Its ability to run either an offensive or defensive set lets it fit on a variety of team archetypes. However, Mega Venusaur faces massive competition from Tangrowth and Amoonguss, both of which perform similar roles and don't need to run Synthesis because they have Regenerator. Also, it takes up a Mega slot, preventing the player from using generally better Mega Evolutions such as Mega Mawile, Mega Medicham, and Mega Scizor. Mega Venusaur is easily worn down by Spikes, Scald burns, and even just powerful attacks, so it finds itself using Synthesis a lot as opposed to attacking, which results in momentum loss and passivity. Finally, it gives a free switch in to certain common Pokemon, such as Autotomize Celesteela, Gengar, and Mega Medicham to an extent, which can spam their powerful STAB moves or set up on Mega Venusaur.
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Giga Drain
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Knock Off / Leech Seed
item: Venusaurite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 88 Def / 156 SpD / 16 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Giga Drain is a STAB move that allows Mega Venusaur to check the Water-types that it is supposed to and recovers HP. Sludge Bomb is a more powerful STAB move that can threaten typical Grass-type checks, such as Mega Charizard X, and can be used to attempt to poison bulkier threats, such as Mega Sableye and Zapdos. Although Synthesis suffers from low PP, it is reliable recovery, which allows Mega Venusaur to check opposing Pokemon throughout the match. Hidden Power Fire pressures Mega Scizor, Mega Mawile, and Magearna, preventing them from setting up on Mega Venusaur, and keeps Ferrothorn from freely setting Spikes up. Knock Off cripples potential switch-ins to Venusaur and Pokemon dependent on their items such as Chansey, Alolan Marowak, Substitute + Coil Zygarde, and Celesteela. Leech Seed is another option to annoy bulkier Pokemon, such as Celesteela and Toxapex, while allowing Venusaur to further recover HP.
Set Details
========
The given EV spread and a Calm nature allow Mega Venusaur to take hits from Protean Greninja, Ash-Greninja, and Tapu Koko while also outspeeding Adamant Mega Mawile. It avoids the 2HKO from pre-transformation Battle Bond Greninja's Choice Specs-boosted Dark Pulse after damage from Stealth Rock and one layer of Spikes while also avoiding the 2HKO from Choice Specs-boosted Extrasensory with no entry hazards up. An EV spread with more Defense and a Bold nature can be used to check Pokemon such as Tapu Bulu and Terrakion more effectively, but only if Ash-Greninja is not an issue for the team. Although neither of Venusaur's initial abilities are very useful, Chlorophyll is preferred in order to allow Venusaur to gain an advantage against teams with Mega Charizard Y.
Usage Tips
========
Pivot Mega Venusaur into Pokemon that it checks, such as Keldeo and Tapu Bulu, so it can threaten them with its STAB moves or recover its HP using Synthesis. Prioritize safely Mega Evolving with Venusaur so it can better pivot into Pokemon with its improved bulk and Thick Fat. While Mega Venusaur can switch into Greninja most of the time, it has a hard time taking Choice Specs-boosted Dark Pulses from Ash-Greninja or Extrasensory from Protean Greninja. If the opponent has a Greninja, play conservatively with Mega Venusaur by scouting for Extrasensory and by using Synthesis.
Team Options
========
This Venusaur set fits better on balanced or defensive teams. Because Mega Venusaur does not have the ability to run Leftovers and does not have Regenerator, entry hazards can force it to use Synthesis more than attacking. As a result, hazard removers such as Zapdos, Tapu Fini, Mew, and Skarmory make good partners. Steel-types such as Jirachi, Celesteela, and Magearna, which can take on the Flying- and Psychic-types that Mega Venusaur does not like to face, make for nice teammates. Additionally, Pokemon that can take on the Fire-types that Mega Venusaur generally likes to avoid, like Landorus-T, Garchomp, and Zygarde, make for good partners. Heatran is a particularly good partner because it takes the Psychic-, Fire-, and Flying-type attacks that Mega Venusaur hates, while Mega Venusaur takes Water-type attacks for it. Fire- and Water-types such as Volcarona and Tapu Fini form a core with Mega Venusaur that has good defensive synergy. Mega Venusaur gives free switches to Gengar and Alolan Marowak, so Pokemon that can take hits from these Ghost-types, such as Tyranitar, make decent partners.
[SET]
name: Offensive Tank
move 1: Giga Drain
move 2: Sludge Bomb
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Venusaurite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 232 HP / 92 SpA / 80 SpD / 104 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Giga Drain and Sludge Bomb are Mega Venusaur's main STAB moves; Giga Drain helps recover Venusaur's HP and hits Water- and Ground-types super effectively, while Sludge Bomb can hit the plethora of Fairy-types present in the tier. Synthesis is mandatory for Venusaur so it can recover HP and switch into foes such as Greninja multiple times. Hidden Power Fire rounds out Venusaur's coverage by letting it hit Steel-types, which it would be walled by otherwise; specifically, it is used to pressure Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor.
Set Details
========
The given EV spread is used to outspeed maximum-Speed Jolly Mega Mawile and Adamant Tyranitar while avoiding the 2HKO from pre-transformation Battle Bond Greninja's Choice Specs-boosted Dark Pulse after Stealth Rock damage. 92 Special Attack EVs enable Mega Venusaur's Hidden Power Fire to 2HKO Ferrothron without any prior damage. Chlorophyll is preferred over Overgrow to give Venusaur an advantage against teams with Mega Charizard Y.
Usage Tips
========
When using this set, Mega Venusaur intends to pivot into attacks while hitting back with its powerful STAB moves. Specifically, pivot Mega Venusaur into Pokemon that it checks, such as Keldeo and Tapu Koko, so it can retaliate with Giga Drain or Sludge Bomb or recover its HP with Synthesis. Try to get Venusaur in for free so it can Mega Evolve safely, as it's fairly weak and lacking in bulk pre-Mega Evolution. Due to this set's lower bulk, it is easier to wear it down with entry hazards and repeated attacks, so use Giga Drain and Synthesis to help Venusaur tank more hits throughout the match. Use Hidden Power Fire to pressure the Steel-types that switch into Mega Venusaur; many of them are not prepared to take a Hidden Power Fire from offensive sets. Use Sludge Bomb to pressure bulkier threats, such as Zapdos, by attempting to poison them.
Team Options
========
This set can be one of the best checks to Ash-Greninja for offensive and bulky offensive teams. It can also fit well on balanced teams, acting as a solid check to Water- and Fairy-types. Mega Venusaur appreciates entry hazards being removed from its side of the field, so hazard removers such as Tapu Fini, Mew, and Zapdos make for decent partners. However, it also appreciates Stealth Rock up on the opposing side of the field to cripple switch-ins such as Mega Charizard Y and Alolan Marowak. As a result, Stealth Rock users such as Landorus-T, Garchomp, and Heatran make for good partners. Heatran also has the ability to take Flying-, Psychic-, and Fire-type attacks for Mega Venusaur. Fire- and Water-types such as Tapu Fini and Alolan Marowak form a core with good defensive and offensive synergy when partnered with Mega Venusaur. Finally, Pokemon that appreciate Mega Venusaur's ability to pressure opposing Water-, Grass-, and Fairy-types, such as Ash-Greninja, Keldeo, and Zygarde, make for decent teammates.
[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Sleep Powder can cripple switch-ins to Mega Venusaur and create opportunities for partners to switch in and use a powerful attack or sweep, but generally, the ability to hit Steel-types or remove items is more useful. Earthquake can surprise Heatran and Alolan Marowak, and Hidden Power Ice prevents Zygarde and Flyinium Z Landorus-T from setting up on it but does not hit Steel-types. Life Orb Venusaur is one of the best sweepers on sun teams due to its Chlorophyll ability, but sun is generally a bad team archetype.
Checks and Counters
===================
**Fire-types**: Despite Mega Venusaur's ability, Alolan Marowak, Heatran, and Mega Charizard Y can overpower Venusaur with their STAB moves while switching into its attacks easily.
**Flying-types**: Tornadus-T, Mega Pinsir, and Flyinium Z Landorus-T can threaten to OHKO Mega Venusaur with their powerful STAB moves. However, the former two and many others do not like switching into Sludge Bomb, while the third takes a good chunk of damage from Giga Drain.
**Psychic-types**: Psychic-types like Mega Alakazam, Mega Medicham, and Tapu Lele can OHKO Mega Venusaur with their STAB moves, but many of them do not want to switch into it.
**Chansey**: Mega Venusaur's attacks barely do any damage to Chansey. However, Chansey is crippled by Knock Off and cannot do much back.
**Super Effective Coverage Moves**: Since Mega Venusaur only has Synthesis for recovery, it is easily pressured by coverage moves such as Extrasensory from either Greninja and Tapu Bulu's Zen Headbutt.
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