Gen 3 [ZU] Seaking Toxic Tect + OO and CC [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Toxic + Protect
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Protect
move 3: Surf
move 4: Megahorn
item: Leftovers
ability: Water Veil
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Seaking's decent bulk coupled with its respectable Speed allow it to act as a solid Toxic user. Toxic allows Seaking to cripple walls and bulky Pokemon that may try and switch in such as Lileep, Castform, and Chinchou. Seaking's Surf can be used to threaten opposing offensive and physically defensive Pokemon like Aipom, Koffing, and Nosepass. Megahorn provides Seaking valuable coverage against Grass-type Pokemon such as Bayleef, Lileep, and Exeggcute. Protect enables Seaking to stall for more Toxic damage while also allowing it to more reliably gain passive recovery and scout Choice Band attackers such as Nidorino, Aipom, and Pidgeotto.

Seaking fits best on defensive and balance teams that appreciate having support from status as well as a defensive Water-type. Defensive Grass-types such as Sunflora, Bayleef, and Lileep appreciate Seaking's effectiveness at checking Growlithe and Cyndaquil. Likewise, Seaking appreciates these Grass-types, as they check Chinchou and Elekid. Seaking pairs well with physical attackers such as Aipom, Nidorino, and Pidgeotto, as they can threaten Delcatty, the most prominent Heal Bell user. Other Toxic users such as Nosepass, Magnemite, Koffing, and Dustox can help support Seaking in its role as a Toxic user due to its lack of reliable recovery. Magnemite, Nosepass, and Koffing are worth noting, as they can sponge hits from physical attackers that Seaking tends to struggle with otherwise. Physical wallbreakers such as Rhyhorn, Cubone, and Aipom can threaten Dustox and Grimer, which otherwise render Seaking useless with their high Special Defense and Toxic immunity.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Hidden Power Ground can be used on its mixed set to lure and remove opposing Chinchou, though Seaking almost always prefers the option to check Dustox. Ice Beam can be run instead of Hidden Power to threaten Grass-types like Lileep and Bayleef, though it sees a steep overlap with Megahorn.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Special Walls**: Specially defensive Pokemon like Dustox and Delcatty can wall Seaking if it's not the mixed or rain variant.

**Castform**: Castform is the premier check to the Rain Dance set, as it stalls Seaking's turns with Protect and threatens it with Thunderbolt. Castform must be wary of Seaking's other sets, as it doesn't appreciate Megahorn or being crippled by Toxic. Moreover, Castform can also prevent Seaking taking advantage of rain thanks to Sunny Day.

**Electric-Types**: Chinchou and Elekid are both able to threaten Seaking with their STAB-boosted Thunderbolt. However, due to Seaking's bulk it manages to avoid being OHKOed.

**Physical Attackers**: Seaking is outpaced and OHKOed by common Choice Band wallbreakers such as Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Taillow.

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Good stuff here. qc 2/2 when implemented
[SET]
name: Toxic + Protect
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Surf
move 3: Megahorn
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Water Veil
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe

I think Protect is supposed to be move 2 here since it follows the Smogon set layout and this is typically how other toxtect/subtox sets are.

[SET COMMENTS]
Seaking's decent bulk coupled with its respectable speed allow it to act as a solid Toxic user. Toxic allows Seaking to cripple walls and bulky Pokemon that may try and switch in such as Lileep, Castform, and Chinchou. Seaking's Water-type STAB, Surf, can be used to threaten opposing offensive or physically defensive Pokemon like Aipom, Koffing, and Nosepass. Megahorn provides Seaking valuable coverage against Grass-type Pokemon such as Bayleef, Lileep, and Exeggcute. Protect enables Seaking to stall for more Toxic damage while also allowing it to more reliably gain passive recovery and scout Choice Band attackers such as Nidorino, Aipom, and Pidgeotto.

Seaking fits best on defensive and balanced teams that appreciate having support from status as well as a defensive Water-type. Defensive Grass-types such as Sunflora, Bayleef, and Lileep appreciate Seaking's effectiveness at checking Growlithe and Cyndaquil. Likewise, Seaking appreciates these Grass-types as they check Chinchou and Elekid. Seaking pairs well with physical attackers such as Aipom, Nidorino, and Pidgeotto as they can check Delcatty, the most prominent Heal Bell user. Other Toxic users such as Nosepass, Magnemite, Koffing, and Dustox can help support Seaking in its role as a Toxic user due to its lack of reliable recovery. Magnemite, Nosepass, and Koffing are worth noting as they can sponge hits from physical attackers which Seaking tends to struggle with otherwise.

I think you might want to mention teammates who help it with Dustox and Grimer as they both absorb Toxic and aren't bother by its other moves.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Hidden Power Ground can be used on its mixed set to lure and remove opposing Chinchou though Seaking almost always prefers the option to check Dustox. Ice Beam can be run to threaten Grass-types like Lileep and Bayleef though it sees a steep overlap with Megahorn.

I'm not sure how important this is but you can touch on how running Ice Beam > Megahorn adds a bit more physical defense value. If it's meant to be ran over HP Fly or Grass on its mixed or rain sweeper sets, respectively, then I would clarify that.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Special Walls**: Specially defensive Pokemon like Dustox and Delcatty can wall Seaking if it's not the mixed or rain variant.

**Castform**: Castform is the premier Rain Dance check as it stalls Seaking's turns with Protect and threatens it with Thunderbolt. Castform must be weary of Seaking's other sets as it doesn't appreciate Megahorn or being crippled by Toxic. Moreover, Castform can also prevent Seaking abusing the effects of weather due to its access to Sunny Day.

**Electric-Types**: Chinchou and Elekid are both able to threaten Seaking with their STAB Thunderbolt. However, due to Seaking's bulk it manages to avoid being OHKOed.

**Physical Attackers**: Seaking is outpaced and OHKOed by common Choice Band breakers such as Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Taillow.

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[SET]
name: Toxic + Protect
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Protect
move 3: Surf
move 4: Megahorn
item: Leftovers
ability: Water Veil
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Seaking's decent bulk coupled with its respectable speed Speed allow it to act as a solid Toxic user. Toxic allows Seaking to cripple walls and bulky Pokemon that may try and switch in such as Lileep, Castform, and Chinchou. Seaking's Water-type STAB, (rc) Surf, (rc) can be used to threaten opposing offensive or and physically defensive Pokemon like Aipom, Koffing, and Nosepass. Megahorn provides Seaking valuable coverage against Grass-type Pokemon such as Bayleef, Lileep, and Exeggcute. Protect enables Seaking to stall for more Toxic damage while also allowing it to more reliably gain passive recovery and scout Choice Band attackers such as Nidorino, Aipom, and Pidgeotto.

Seaking fits best on defensive and balanced balance teams that appreciate having support from status as well as a defensive Water-type. Defensive Grass-types such as Sunflora, Bayleef, and Lileep appreciate Seaking's effectiveness at checking Growlithe and Cyndaquil. Likewise, Seaking appreciates these Grass-types, (ac) as they check Chinchou and Elekid. Seaking pairs well with physical attackers such as Aipom, Nidorino, and Pidgeotto, (ac) as they can check threaten Delcatty, the most prominent Heal Bell user. Other Toxic users such as Nosepass, Magnemite, Koffing, and Dustox can help support Seaking in its role as a Toxic user due to its lack of reliable recovery. Magnemite, Nosepass, and Koffing are worth noting, (ac) as they can sponge hits from physical attackers which that Seaking tends to struggle with otherwise. Physical wallbreakers such as Rhyhorn, Cubone, and Aipom can threaten Dustox and Grimer, (ac) which otherwise render Seaking useless with their high special defense Special Defense and Toxic immunity.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Hidden Power Ground can be used on its mixed set to lure and remove opposing Chinchou, (ac) though Seaking almost always prefers the option to check Dustox. Ice Beam can be run instead of Hidden Power to threaten Grass-types like Lileep and Bayleef, (ac) though it sees a steep overlap with Megahorn.

Checks and Counters (removed one gap from above)
===================

**Special Walls**: Specially defensive Pokemon like Dustox and Delcatty can wall Seaking if it's not the mixed or rain variant.

**Castform**: Castform is the premier Rain Dance check check to the Rain Dance set, (ac) as it stalls Seaking's turns with Protect and threatens it with Thunderbolt. Castform must be weary wary of Seaking's other sets, (ac) as it doesn't appreciate Megahorn or being crippled by Toxic. Moreover, Castform can also prevent Seaking abusing the effects of weather due to its access to Sunny Day taking advantage of rain thanks to Sunny Day.

**Electric-Types**: Chinchou and Elekid are both able to threaten Seaking with their STAB-boosted Thunderbolt. However, due to Seaking's bulk it manages to avoid being OHKOed.

**Physical Attackers**: Seaking is outpaced and OHKOed by common Choice Band wallbreakers such as Aipom, Pidgeotto, and Taillow.

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