CAP 2 Smogon "Create a Pokemon" Part Deux: Poll 7b

[Magmortified]

Compression of a gas/liquid into a solid, upon which it causes a chain reaction that forces the particles against each other resulting in an explosion. Whether that makes sense or is even plausible I don't know, but we're talking about a floating orb of gas that shoots poison balls.

Still doesn't sound like something you'd want to throw into a microwave. Especially since compression tends to make things a bit more flammable.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

This could work-
Level 1: Ice Punch
Level 1: Thunder Punch
Level 1: Pound
Level 1: Leer
Level 1: Rock Tomb
Level 1: Astonish
Level 9: Mach Punch
Level 16: Night Shade
Level 25: Bulk Up
Level 31: Shadow Punch
Level 36: Brick Break
Level 40: Confuse Ray
Level 48: Shadow Claw~ Doesn't have claws O.o
Level 51: Protect
Level 59: Cross Chop
Level 64: Imprision
Level 72: Aura Sphere
Level 80: Recover~ No, just no.

Egg Moves:
Shadow Sneak
Mach Punch
Destiny Bond
Pursuit
Knock Off
Hypnosis~ Iffy I this one since it could stop his/her/it's counter(s) long enough to kill and/or main them.
Close Combat~ Kinda meh-ish. I mean tanks don't like their defenses lower.
Morning Sun~ Morning Sun is more flavorful.
Dark Pulse

God damn, take out some level up move, I mean what is the max number of level up moves a pokemon can have?

 

[jujuomi]

CC no way no how. Also before you make egg moves, where are they going to get them from? Shadow Claw = nono(where are the claws/sharp nails/etc). Aura sphere I can understand, but a bit effy. And cross chop is a no. His hand would fall off! Sand tomb, this attack has nothing to do with tombs, its just quick sand. Pound = o.0.

EDIT: Keep in mind this thing is defensive, and it shouldn't have all the top notch up-to date attacks. If it were up to you this thing would have...

CC
Aura Sphere
Shadow Ball
Shadow Claw
Earthquake
Stone Edge
ETC

Obviously this mummy is going to get some of not most of these. But not all...

Re posting. This had a quote of firewater's set. Like the above poster does.

 

[Dane]

I suppose, but it could always be like, in this case, holding a lighting in front of a can of hair spray and letting rip. It doesn't have back tredding for the flame, so the can is safe, but the spray isn't. So special fire = ok, physical fire != ok. *nod*

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Magmortified]

I suppose, but it could always be like, in this case, holding a lighting in front of a can of hair spray and letting rip. It doesn't have back tredding for the flame, so the can is safe, but the spray isn't. So special fire = ok, physical fire != ok. *nod*

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

But then, where does the lighter come from? Weezing has to internally generate those high amounts of heat. And then: *Kablam!* =P

 

[jujuomi]

I think that the Pre-Evo should be like an orb covered in toilet paper or whatever it really is =P.

This way we can rid of egg moves like close combat, and such.

 

[Dane]

He has his own Pokemon. He keeps a pocket Chimchar for just such an occasion.

I think that the Pre-Evo should be like an orb covered in toilet paper or whatever it really is =P.

This way we can rid of egg moves like close combat, and such.

Or we could just not give it that as an egg move in general.

 

[KoA]

Why has no one suggested Ominous Wind for a move? :(

I feel it can fit in perfectly flavorwise. The chance to increase all stats is kinda nice too. :P

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

Because it's not Ominous enough?

 

[darkie]

AncientPower works better here, even it's not a stab move. Mummies are pretty Ancient.

 

[KoA]

I dunno about you, but I'd hate to run into him in a dark alley. D:

 

[Urza]

resubmitting my movelist, even though deck's seems generally preferable. also, moves like sand tomb make sense to me. TOMB. TOMB. that's enough reason. and agreeing with ancient power being in the move set. any comments, suggestions? i'd like to make this as good as possible, a competitive list. help me out :-D

lv0 - ancient power
lv1 - pound
lv1 - leer
lv4 - sand attack
lv9 - arm thrust
lv12 - astonish
lv17 - confuse ray
lv21 - karate chop
lv26 - scary face
lv32 - curse
lv37 - shadow punch
lv44 - revenge
lv49 - shadow ball
lv57 - hammer arm
lv66 - heal block

egg moves: spite, grudge, snatch, punishment, shadow sneak, bone rush, sand tomb, dizzy punch, smog, knock off, mach punch, vacuum wave

tms:
tm1 - focus punch
tm6 - toxic
tm8 - bulk up
tm10 - hidden power
tm11 - sunny day
tm12 -taunt
tm15 - hyper beam
tm17 - protect
tm20 - safeguard
tm21 - frustration
tm27 - return
tm30 - shadow ball
tm31 - brick break
tm32 - double team
tm39 - rock tomb
tm40 - aerial ace
tm41 - torment
tm44 - rest
tm45 - attract
tm46 - thief
tm56 - fling
tm58 - endure
tm60 - drain punch
tm63 - embargo
tm66 - payback
tm68 - giga impact
tm70 - flash
tm79 - dark pulse
tm82 - sleep talk
tm83 - natural gift
tm90 - substitute
hm6 - rock smash
hm8 - rock climb

 

[chronostrike]

I think it should get ominous wind. I would love to see someone pull off a spec mummy.

It's supposed to be defensive, so it's probably best that we don't give it any attacks of BP 100 or higher. That would get rid of CC, which I didn't particularly dislike, but ce la vie. Also, that would stop EQ. Somehow, I just don't see this guy using EQ.

Out of curiosity, what was your idea for the female, Gothic Togekiss?

 

[Dane]

Level Up Moves:
Lvl 01 - Wrap
Lvl 01 - Curse
Lvl 04 - Arm Thrust
Lvl 09 - Sand Tomb
Lvl 13 - Ice Punch
Lvl 19 - Spite
Lvl 22 - Ancient Power
Lvl 26 - Dizzy Punch
Lvl 31 - Morning Sun
Lvl 35 - Nightmare
Lvl 41 - Shadow Punch
Lvl 47 - Mean Look
Lvl 50 - Rest
Lvl 52 - Sleep Talk
Lvl 60 - Glare
Lvl 72 - Hammer Arm
Lvl 80 - Bulk Up
Lvl 89 - Power Whip

Egg Moves:
HumanShape:
- Knock Off
- Punishment
- Pursuit
- Revenge
- Aura Sphere

Indeterminate:
- Night Slash
- Shadow Sneak
- Sucker Punch
- Night Shade
- Ominous Wind
- Grudge

TMs:
- 01 Focus Punch
- 05 Roar
- 08 Bulk Up
- 10 Hidden Power
- 11 Sunny Day
- 17 Protect
- 18 Rain Dance
- 20 Safeguard
- 21 Frustration
- 26 Earthquake
- 30 Shadow Ball
- 31 Brick Break
- 37 Sandstorm
- 39 Rock Tomb
- 41 Torment
- 43 Secret Power
- 44 Rest
- 54 False Swipe
- 58 Endure
- 66 Payback
- 78 Captivate
- 79 Dark Pulse
- 80 Rock Slide
- 82 Sleep Talk
- 85 Dream Eater
- 92 Trick Room

HMs:
- 04 Strength
- 06 Rock Smash


Changes:

• Moved Grudge to egg list. Replaced Grudge's level up slot with Morning Sun.
• Switched level slots for Morning Sun and Mean Look so Rest and Morning Sun weren't next to each other.
• Replaced Icy Wind with Ice Punch.
• Added Ominous Wind to egg list.
• Replaced Endure level up slot with Ancient Power.
• Added TM79 Dark Pulse to TM list.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

Out of curiosity, what was your idea for the female, Gothic Togekiss?

A more feminine body, bandage "hair", breast (j/k)

I dunno about you, but I'd hate to run into him in a dark alley. D:

Yeah...if he hit you with his "J.G.K.T.F.O" move, you're done for.

 

[jujuomi]

He has his own Pokemon. He keeps a pocket Chimchar for just such an occasion.



Or we could just not give it that as an egg move in general.

Because it gives us the right to say NO GTFO.

 

[Elevator Music]

I think it should get ominous wind. I would love to see someone pull off a spec mummy.

It's supposed to be defensive, so it's probably best that we don't give it any attacks of BP 100 or higher. That would get rid of CC, which I didn't particularly dislike, but ce la vie. Also, that would stop EQ. Somehow, I just don't see this guy using EQ.

Out of curiosity, what was your idea for the female, Gothic Togekiss?

A mummy with boobs.

Anyways, I don't like the idea of getting rid of all BP 100 moves just because it's defensive.

I do however think we should be rather limited with them, and only use them if they truely fit with the desgin. CC (both of them), I feel don't truely fit, although, Cross Chop does more than Close Combat.

And I think the thing should get Ancient Power and Ominous Wind. There's no real reason for it not to get both. Also, CM should be an option. I think I'd have the patience to have a Calm Mind after being in a tomb for a century or two.

 

[darkie]

Get rid of Trick Room. We gave this low speed to cripple it, not to make it better under the effects of a move it could set up.

You don't need Rest as a level-up slot. IMO, level-up moves are more moves that make sense thematically, and I don't see how this learns Rest through level-up, even though everything learns it. Same with Sleep Talk.

False Swipe makes little sense. It has no claws to swipe with.

Also, if we give it Nightware, we should go with Moonlight over Morning Sun. It makes more sense, as nightmares == sleep == moon =/= sun.

So, altering Dane's list gives us this:

Level Up Moves:
Lvl 01 - Wrap
Lvl 01 - Curse
Lvl 04 - Arm Thrust
Lvl 09 - Sand Tomb
Lvl 13 - Ice Punch
Lvl 19 - Spite
Lvl 22 - Dizzy Punch
Lvl 26 - Moonlight
Lvl 31 - Nightmare
Lvl 35 - Shadow Punch
Lvl 41 - Mean Look
Lvl 47 - Glare
Lvl 50 - Hammer Arm
Lvl 52 - Bulk Up
Lvl 60 - Power Whip


Egg Moves:
HumanShape:
- Knock Off
- Punishment
- Pursuit
- Revenge
- Aura Sphere

Indeterminate:
- Night Slash
- Shadow Sneak
- Sucker Punch
- Night Shade
- Ominous Wind
- Grudge

TMs:
- 01 Focus Punch
- 08 Bulk Up
- 10 Hidden Power
- 11 Sunny Day
- 17 Protect
- 18 Rain Dance
- 20 Safeguard
- 21 Frustration
- 26 Earthquake
- 30 Shadow Ball
- 31 Brick Break
- 37 Sandstorm
- 39 Rock Tomb
- 41 Torment
- 43 Secret Power
- 44 Rest
- 58 Endure
- 66 Payback
- 78 Captivate
- 80 Rock Slide
- 82 Sleep Talk
- 85 Dream Eater


HMs:
- 04 Strength
- 06 Rock Smash

This gives us exactly 50 moves.

 

[Viashino_wizard]

We gave it Morning Sun because the Egyptians, maker of mummies, were a sun-worshipping people.

 

[Dane]

Plenty of Pokemon have TMs as level up moves. Rest and to a lesser extent Sleep Talk make perfect thematically. False Swipe was mostly filler, since it didn't really matter if something can learn competitively useless TMs, and it can still slap Pokemon with it's bandages.

Trick Room is debatable. I figured it could give Curse a use over Bulk Up on some gimmick sets, and it works with the idea of a booby trapped Pyramid.

 

[Urza]

i'm actually posting to say i don't think it should get the elemental punches...this thing doesn't look like it could have anything to do with the elements physically....some special moves, maybe, but even there...

just my thoughts...

@ dane: being part ghost, this thing can't curse like the usual sense of the word. it'll lose half it's life and inflict a curse on the opponent

 

[Magmortified]

I still don't see WoW. =(

And why can this get Frustration, but not Return? Or... was that intentional?

EDIT:

@Dane: You seem to be forgetting that this is a ghosty, and Curse is the (-50% damage once, opponent loses 25% til they switch or die) move on ghosties. It's easy to forget.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

"J.G.K.T.F.O"
Type: Fighting
Physical
Power: 80(???)
Acc: 90
Effect: 30% chance of put the foe asleep.

Yeah...I dragging this joke up like all hell.

 

[Dane]

I figured Mummies in movies are always mad, so they should get Frustration.

As for WoW, there are enough reasons against it, and the only real reason for it is "All other Ghosts bu Froslass get it". Well, if Froslass would melt, he'll burn.

 

[1059860]

Tutor) Night Shade
Tutor) Arm Thrust
Tutor) Constrict
Tutor) Shadow Punch
1) Constrict
4) Wrap
7) Shadow Sneak
7) Mach Punch
11) Scary Face
19) Vital Throw
22) Stockpile
22) Spit Up
22) Swallow
26) Glare
29) Shadow Ball
32) Smellingsalt
36) Hammer Arm
40) Protect
44) Counter
48) Zen Headbutt
52) Power Whip
74) Bandage Heal*

*The move is just a different name as Aqua Ring, works almost exactly the same as Aqua Ring, besides in Double Battles, it will heal work on the ally as well. It make sense because when people are wrapped in bandages, the spot that was hurt and wrapped would be gradually healing... (PP Base 10)
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TM/HMs
TM01 - Focus Punch
TM04 - Calm Mind
TM06 - Toxic
TM08 - Bulk Up
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM12 - Taunt
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM27 - Return
TM29 - Psychic
TM30 - Shadow Ball
TM31 - Brick Break
TM32 - Double Team
TM33 - Reflect
TM37 - Sandstorm
TM40 - Aerial Ace
TM41 - Torment
TM42 - Facade
TM43 - Secret Power
TM44 - Rest
TM46 - Thief
TM48 - Skill Swap
TM49 - Snatch
TM52 - Focus Blast
TM56 - Fling
TM58 - Endure
TM60 - Drain Punch
TM63 - Embargo
TM64 - Explosion
TM66 - Payback
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM71 - Stone Edge
TM74 - Gyro Ball
TM76 - Stealth Rock
TM77 - Psych Up
TM79 - Dark Pulse
TM80 - Rock Slide
TM82 - Sleep Talk
TM83 - Natural Gift
TM85 - Dream Eater
TM87 - Swagger
TM89 - U-Turn
TM90 - Substitute
HM04 - Strength
HM06 - Rock Smash
HM08 - Rock Climb
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Egg Moves:
-Destiny Bond
-Grudge
-Momento
-Curse
-Knock Off
-DynamicPunch
-Cross Chop
-Heal Block
-Mega Punch
-Pursuit