Yah I kinda agree with most of what he said.
I've been switching back to Zyg-C over Giratina on my teams because I think Zygarde's bulk and typing make it better currently for a few main reasons.
- Superior bulk means I can more easily go with a specially defensive nature without making my matchup against physical threats any worse.
- Can live a specs surge psycho boost from mmy: 252 SpA Choice Specs Mewtwo-Mega-Y Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Zygarde-Complete in Psychic Terrain: 519-612 (81.6 - 96.2%)
- Immunity to volt switch will prevent your opponent from mindlessly clicking it which makes him a really good partner for mons like yveltal or gyarados that can otherwise get easily worn down.
- Resist stealth rocks making it slightly better as a defogger, Giratina can get worn down by trying to go in while the opponent doubles, Zyg doesn't care as much.
- Ground stab is pretty damn good, giving him access to both arrows and waves, I've been usually running volt switch + thousand waves which makes it imposterproof while still keeping a pivoting move, also allows him to trap mons like groudon who might have wanted to get a bit more chip or MMY who underestimated the damage of non specs psycho boost in terrain (because zygarde can easily eat 2). Ground stab + Groundium also serves as a pretty decent normalize gengar check (as an added bonus, I've had the extra damage from z waves come in clutch to win me a game more than a few times)
Only thing is that it doesn't really deal with Regigigas but on any team that does I think running Zyg over Gira is definitely worth.
Regarding Shedinja, Stakeout is the main draw imo but there's another few things I've found it to be good against.
- Standard Regigigas is hard walled and Shed has a few different option that it can kill it with including the common endeavor + espeed.
- A few PH xern variant that can be really annoying to deal with, are also walled, like moonblast / earth power sets that run either taunt or lovely kiss.
- Standard specs surge mmy is Psystrike / Psycho Boost / Volt Switch / Coverage, and that coverage is not necessarily moongeist beam so if it's running Specs Blue Flare to surprise your registeel or Fleur Canon / Secret Sword for Ttar, all is not lost.
- Band Groudon doesn't usually run Sunsteel, instead often opting for a combination of dual stab, pivot, bolt strike, Ice Hammer and Trick.
- Contrary Sweepers Contrary Dragons with moongeist or sunsteel are pretty rare, Sceptile usually runs Leaf Storm / Draco Meteor / Overheat / Spore making it a huge pain to deal with when using standard walls, Rayquaza usually opts for support moves like sub, spore or recovery, Groudon has that weird imposterproof set with v-create / fleur / judgement / bolt strike or superpower, mmy is the one that most often runs moongeist beam but it's also seen without instead opting for one of his many coverage option like a Psycho Boost / Fleur Canon / Overheat / Spore set.
- And yeah, plate ss mons not named gengar can never beat it.
Edit: For the record, and since it implied the opposite, I don't think Giratina should drop a rank, but there was a significant amount of ppl that believed Giratina to be all around better than zyg which I don't think is the case. In a way Zygarde is more team specific but would outperform giratina in said teams.
I've been switching back to Zyg-C over Giratina on my teams because I think Zygarde's bulk and typing make it better currently for a few main reasons.
- Superior bulk means I can more easily go with a specially defensive nature without making my matchup against physical threats any worse.
- Can live a specs surge psycho boost from mmy: 252 SpA Choice Specs Mewtwo-Mega-Y Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Zygarde-Complete in Psychic Terrain: 519-612 (81.6 - 96.2%)
- Immunity to volt switch will prevent your opponent from mindlessly clicking it which makes him a really good partner for mons like yveltal or gyarados that can otherwise get easily worn down.
- Resist stealth rocks making it slightly better as a defogger, Giratina can get worn down by trying to go in while the opponent doubles, Zyg doesn't care as much.
- Ground stab is pretty damn good, giving him access to both arrows and waves, I've been usually running volt switch + thousand waves which makes it imposterproof while still keeping a pivoting move, also allows him to trap mons like groudon who might have wanted to get a bit more chip or MMY who underestimated the damage of non specs psycho boost in terrain (because zygarde can easily eat 2). Ground stab + Groundium also serves as a pretty decent normalize gengar check (as an added bonus, I've had the extra damage from z waves come in clutch to win me a game more than a few times)
Only thing is that it doesn't really deal with Regigigas but on any team that does I think running Zyg over Gira is definitely worth.
Regarding Shedinja, Stakeout is the main draw imo but there's another few things I've found it to be good against.
- Standard Regigigas is hard walled and Shed has a few different option that it can kill it with including the common endeavor + espeed.
- A few PH xern variant that can be really annoying to deal with, are also walled, like moonblast / earth power sets that run either taunt or lovely kiss.
- Standard specs surge mmy is Psystrike / Psycho Boost / Volt Switch / Coverage, and that coverage is not necessarily moongeist beam so if it's running Specs Blue Flare to surprise your registeel or Fleur Canon / Secret Sword for Ttar, all is not lost.
- Band Groudon doesn't usually run Sunsteel, instead often opting for a combination of dual stab, pivot, bolt strike, Ice Hammer and Trick.
- Contrary Sweepers Contrary Dragons with moongeist or sunsteel are pretty rare, Sceptile usually runs Leaf Storm / Draco Meteor / Overheat / Spore making it a huge pain to deal with when using standard walls, Rayquaza usually opts for support moves like sub, spore or recovery, Groudon has that weird imposterproof set with v-create / fleur / judgement / bolt strike or superpower, mmy is the one that most often runs moongeist beam but it's also seen without instead opting for one of his many coverage option like a Psycho Boost / Fleur Canon / Overheat / Spore set.
- And yeah, plate ss mons not named gengar can never beat it.
Edit: For the record, and since it implied the opposite, I don't think Giratina should drop a rank, but there was a significant amount of ppl that believed Giratina to be all around better than zyg which I don't think is the case. In a way Zygarde is more team specific but would outperform giratina in said teams.
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