Hi.I would like to point out that you were right in the fact that I was not detailed enough, which I should be. But, that does not dismiss any of my facts,
pertaining to monferno, You asked me to explain the drop, which I will(btw, the A- was a mistake, I meant A, My bad)
It is a great poke, no doubt, but like I said earlier, it has too many checks to it too be a dominant A+ force, it gets taking out by pretty much anything faster than it, and it doesn't have the sheer power to beat some of the bulkier pokemon. Monferno is an overrated pokemon in my opinion, while you may disagree. It is a dominant force no doubt, but in my opinion, it requires too much team support and has too many checks to be an A+ pokemon
And about the stoutland, I did read the forum wrong, and I am very sorry for that, stoutland is an A+pokemon,
And about gigalith, I wasn't trying to be descriptive, I just was explaining how it has good attributes to move up, but I can describe if u want me too
Gigalith has a massive attack and defense, and has a passible special defense. This makes it a great stealth rock setter or even physical wall if u want to do that also. The reason I compared it to golemo is because they have a similar role. I'm not going to go as far as to say gigalith outclasses golem, but I will say that gigalith is worth more than the lousy unranked tier it gets. And what priority does golem have access to?
And finally, quilladin
Quilladin cant wall many water pokes, in which most carry ice beam, which is usually a 2HKO. So what real niche does quilladin have? when it has barely any offensive presence and gets outclassed by a lot of other defensive walls in the tier. Quilladin is a strong physical wall, no doubt about that, but it is easy setup fodder and quite weak if eviolite gets knocked off by knock off, which is very common in PU. I am giving it a B+ ranking which is still a good ranking no doubt , I'm just saying that in my experience it has not been useful enough to be in the A- ranking
Btw, thx for the feedback, I'm not perfect. Take care :)
Monferno is easily one off, if not the, most consistent pokemon in PU with a lot of your reasoning being very..subpar with Monferno being able to customize itself in order to get around what it wants, speed can be patched with Scarf,Flame Charge,SD+Mach Punch and while not the best or most consistent sets (besides SD) allow Monferno to patch this issue for what you want it to do.pertaining to monferno, You asked me to explain the drop, which I will(btw, the A- was a mistake, I meant A, My bad)
It is a great poke, no doubt, but like I said earlier, it has too many checks to it too be a dominant A+ force, it gets taking out by pretty much anything faster than it, and it doesn't have the sheer power to beat some of the bulkier pokemon. Monferno is an overrated pokemon in my opinion, while you may disagree. It is a dominant force no doubt, but in my opinion, it requires too much team support and has too many checks to be an A+ pokemon
The point on bulkier Pokemon is again easily patched with just the U-Turn set being able to give momentum and take that pokemon out with a team member or if it is a Pokemon like say Pelipper taken out with SD+Thunder punch as a lure. Monferno provides a safety net in its own right with just a standard eviolite set with SD or U-Turn due to its typing checking and countering Pokemon like Pawniard,Cacturne,Stoutland,Lapras,Regice,Grumpig,Rotom-F the list goes on an on due to exactly how effective Monferno is for the role it provides overall.
The points you mention are true but they are basically the reasons as to why Monferno is not in S rank and remains in A+ more then anything.
Sucker Punch which is staple on it's offensive sets and optional on its SpD tank set in the 4th slot.And what priority does golem have access to?
The point bolded goes for a lot of pokemon unranked however it's all determined on what competition it faces.And about gigalith, I wasn't trying to be descriptive, I just was explaining how it has good attributes to move up, but I can describe if u want me too
Gigalith has a massive attack and defense, and has a passible special defense. This makes it a great stealth rock setter or even physical wall if u want to do that also. The reason I compared it to golemo is because they have a similar role. I'm not going to go as far as to say gigalith outclasses golem, but I will say that gigalith is worth more than the lousy unranked tier it gets.
Gigalith has merits that in the long run aren't worth it over other offensive and defensive rockers with Golem alone honestly being enough to keep it unranked but consider other Pokemon like Stunfisk,Probopass,Gabite,Mawile,Relicanth ect ect. Its Rock-Type,Atack and Defensive stats are impressive but over the dual typing,move-pools and utility the other Stealth Rockers provide just leave using Gigalith underwhelming in the long run with something better basically always being available.
I'm just doing this one in dot points because i canQuilladin cant wall many water pokes, in which most carry ice beam, which is usually a 2HKO. So what real niche does quilladin have? when it has barely any offensive presence and gets outclassed by a lot of other defensive walls in the tier. Quilladin is a strong physical wall, no doubt about that, but it is easy setup fodder and quite weak if eviolite gets knocked off by knock off, which is very common in PU. I am giving it a B+ ranking which is still a good ranking no doubt , I'm just saying that in my experience it has not been useful enough to be in the A- ranking
- Quilladins niche is being a physically bulky spiker which covers many relevant Pokemon (more so then roselia in most cases currently)
- There is nothing that does what Quill does so it is not outclassed but does face competition from Gourgiest-XL and Tangela as physically bulky grasses
- Quilladin always runs either Taunt or Roar so the point on being set-up fodder is near non existent
- The point on knock off is true but you should be using a knock off absorber other then Quilladin (quill being fine if the threats it walls w/o evio are gone)
- Personally i had little success with Quilladin when i first used it however that was with inexperiance after using it properly i foud it to be one of the more consistant hazard setters atm and if anything the pokemon that should drop is Roselia to A- rank